Market Discussions

Hey guys,

I've been playing EVE for about 6 months now and I have to say, that as a combat pilot (carebear missioner) I am really starting to lose enjoyment in the game. It's just not exciting to shoot things down anymore.

However, I do a bit of hauling on the side with my shoddy 20k m3 sized Bestower, and it isn't actually too bad. Just slow, but that's the point.

Mainly I do mineral movements and its incredibly profitable (coming from the guy who looks at 5M and thinks "that's so much money") and I was wondering if you guys thought it would be a good idea to go from a true-blooded ratter to a high sec shipper.

I'm not going to bother not asking for trolls, but some advice would be very appreciated.

I fully understand that the real money is in nullsec shipping or using jump freighters or what have you, but I am seriously content just getting a Mastodon or something and making my fortune there. I just don't know if that's a sane thing to do.

-Fly safe, o7

There is a lot more volume and a lot more inexperienced sellers in highsec, ie wouldn't worry about not having much access to null, or jumpfreighters etc. Orcas and freighters allow you to move lots in highsec if the need arises.

The only things worth mentioning is that price history and daily volume is something you should know about anything you trade, and that you should never fly with anything resembling your total stake in a hauler, nor should your first freighter + its first payloads be most of your capital, lest you lose it all.

if you actually want to spacetruck yourself, then you can get into region wide buy orders and cross region trading easily.

If you're bored with missions try faction warfare. Good fun and the isk is good, especially if you think 5m is substantial.

A couple of trade alts is a very good idea. You need to choose your items carefully, though. Look for high turnover.

Not sure why anyone would want to get into hauling tbh. I'm glad that people do but they only take about 1% of my average profit. A well-collateralised public courier contract is risk free and cheap.

Thanks for all the responses guys.

I used to play Runescape for almost a decade, so I know about turnaround and what not and I recently learned about the pains of broker fees when it comes to small profit margins. That, and the benefit of seeling things immediately.

I really do want to hammer the point home that I really do hate lowsec/nullsec, so I doubt I'll EVER need to be wary about that's I ship (if its really valuable I have an instant warp frig or two with inertia stabs and nanofiber structures)

But, that's two people so far who have said I should try factional warfare. As long as it doesn't require the same amount of resorves as incursions do, I will take a look at it.

Consider thread dead .3. Not much else to talk about

what are some of the reasons that you 'hate' non-highsec parts of space?
I found that moving into lowsec was one of the most adventurous decisions i've made in the game, and the improvement to my awareness of game mechanics and the other gameplay possibilities has been very rewarding.

over the years I've read in lots of posts about people who don't like lowsec or null and they're really limiting their exposure to very interesting parts of the game, even if they don't participate in the pvp aspect of those areas.

tl/dr = keep your mind open and take a cheap ship around into lowsec sometime to try and belt rat or explore -- the excitement jolt you will hopefully feel about being legitimately 'exposed' may re-ignite that interest in pve aspects of the game, knowing that there are actually other people hunting you while you play.

it's fun :)