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XL SMA

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QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#1 - 2013-06-10 19:59:13 UTC  |  Edited by: QT McWhiskers
I am posting this on this forum as a warning to all WH dwellers, since we are the only ones who will be using these most likely. Be careful with these SMAs. They are freaking huge in size. We have recently discovered an issue where the placement of your XL SMA can mean that they can be access from outside the shield.

We discovered this when someone tried to put an XLSMA in a medium pos. And we found that, in several places, you could hug the shields and board ships from the SMA without the pos password.

I am posting a thread in the issues workarounds section as well to let CCP know, but for all other WH groups be warned. Be careful where you put your XL SMAs.


Edit: It was pointed out my first post was wrong. So I will make is clear.

There is NO PLACE IN ANY POS that you can anchor these structures so that they CANT be accessed from outside the shield. There are only 8 positions and they are all accessible from outside the shields.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-10 20:08:18 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
They are freaking huge in size.


That's what she said

(sorry I really tried to resist)
D'Angelo Barksdale
He's got a pineapple on his head
#3 - 2013-06-10 20:10:36 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
I am posting this on this forum as a warning to all WH dwellers, since we are the only ones who will be using these most likely. Be careful with these SMAs. They are freaking huge in size. We have recently discovered an issue where the placement of your XL SMA can mean that they can be access from outside the shield.

We discovered this when someone tried to put an XLSMA in a medium pos. And we found that, in several places, you could hug the shields and board ships from the SMA without the pos password.

In large posses, they pretty much need to be in the center, because that handle on the end can stick out too far and can result in the same issue.

I am posting a thread in the issues workarounds section as well to let CCP know, but for all other WH groups be warned. Be careful where you put your XL SMAs.


Your dedication and generosity is a credit to all of W-space.
I applaud you good sir.
Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2013-06-10 21:31:32 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:


I am posting a thread in the issues workarounds section as well to let CCP know, but for all other WH groups be warned. Be careful where you put your XL SMAs.


instead of cross-posting, why not a bug report?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.

QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#5 - 2013-06-10 22:07:16 UTC
Because not all WHers are going to read that forum. I am posting this to warn the leadership of all the major groups so that they can test each SMA and lock them down if necessary to help prevent corp theft.
Miyah Putredas
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-10 23:16:16 UTC
Just to clarify, they still can't be accessed by anyone other than corp members? Or alliance members if you have enabled alliance access?
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#7 - 2013-06-10 23:30:43 UTC
Yes. For instance, you cant come to my pos in my wormhole and steal ships out of my X-LSMA because you arent in my corp. But you could warp to a corp mates and still his ships.
TheNewestTwin
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#8 - 2013-06-10 23:52:22 UTC
Could you please provide a screenshot showing the issue? Would be greatly appreciated.

-TNT
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#9 - 2013-06-11 00:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: QT McWhiskers
As a joke I renamed my sma as domination control tower because it looks like it has a tower on the side of it. So when you see domination control tower, thats actually the SMA. SOme of the screenshots look like I am in the pos sheilds, that because I had to hug the shields to get this to work.

http://imgur.com/zpIaLLo,jbZnhvr#0
Ayeson
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-11 00:33:14 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
http://imgur.com/zpIaLLo,jbZnhvr#0


Double fisting Cyno's
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#11 - 2013-06-11 01:19:38 UTC
Ayeson wrote:
QT McWhiskers wrote:
http://imgur.com/zpIaLLo,jbZnhvr#0


Double fisting Cyno's


Like a boss.
Elle Lau
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#12 - 2013-06-11 02:49:46 UTC
Oh dear, why would you tell everyone this?! lol
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#13 - 2013-06-11 04:06:40 UTC
We were going to keep it to ourselves... then we realized that there is no way we could troll people with it because you need roles in the corp to steal from it. That would take spais which HK would never use since we are honorable space bros.
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#14 - 2013-06-11 05:43:58 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
We were going to keep it to ourselves... then we realized that there is no way we could troll people with it because you need roles in the corp to steal from it. That would take spais which HK would never use since we are honorable space bros.


And when HK steals your stuff, they don't just take your china. They steal your whole goddamn house.

http://www.wormholes.info

Sorany
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-06-11 06:26:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Sorany
Nathan Jameson wrote:
they steal your whole goddamn house.


who? us? never.
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#16 - 2013-06-11 07:25:47 UTC
so it if sticks out of the FF, can you shoot it? If yes, will ships drop & subsequently bump out of the FF?
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#17 - 2013-06-11 10:24:37 UTC
Well you are mostly wrong on two counts. One, it doesn't stick out of the shield on a large pos. The access range on it is just so big that you can access ships while outside the shield. Useful for corp thieves. And two, even if it did, you cant shoot pos mods that just barely stick out of your pos shields because the module itself is still inside the shield and therefore is still protected by it.

You MAY be able to bomb them... dunno havent tried and dont really want to with a 700m pos mod.
Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-06-11 11:58:35 UTC
Wonders.. How many Null sec scrubbers we can steal things from.. hummm.. SPYS ATTACK!

-Join corp with alt that is renting to build supers, etc..
-Warp to SMA and take all the things..
-Profit?>
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#19 - 2013-06-11 13:28:59 UTC
With the new unintended "features" that Odyssey has introduced, I've decided to start a "Bugs and Workarounds" section on the website. Thanks for the tip, QT.

http://www.wormholes.info

TheNewestTwin
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#20 - 2013-06-11 20:36:32 UTC
Holy **** that thing is massive!
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