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AFK/IDLE Icon next to/above players standing icon in local chat
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Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-01 13:45:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodore Giumbix
The title pretty much says it all. An AFK / IDLE icon next to or above players standing icon in local chat for players AFK for more than 5 minutes. Similar like in IRC. Would REALLY improve chatting in local Roll

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-01 14:01:17 UTC
I have a better idea, remove local.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-06-01 14:04:27 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
I have a better idea, remove local.


And then how would I chat and connect with the people I meet?

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#4 - 2013-06-01 14:06:08 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
I have a better idea, remove local.


move to WH space and you are granted your wish. removing local in other spaces would be bad for eve

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-06-01 14:09:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
I have a better idea, remove local.


And then complain about 150km radius around the null sec gates full of bubbles and cloacky alts scouting them to gank you at will. Believe it or not if local was to be removed from null sec you couldn't go anywhere or do whatever and what would be the point of such bad idea without the protection of depletable huge sand castles like wh's gates?

Local is as informative to the attacker as it is to the defender, thus no need for changes in null sec or low sec or high sec. But I'd like to light a cyno in wh's and bridge in large fleets from null if you're ok to have some more fun and pvp, show us how bad we are or complain a couple months later why you got back to high sec.

Yep, we can't have the cake and eat it I know, wh's are there for this.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-06-01 14:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodore Giumbix
Ellendras Silver wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
I have a better idea, remove local.
move to WH space and you are granted your wish. removing local in other spaces would be bad for eve
My lady you are quoting from CCP Soundwave: EVE Fanfest 2013: Game Design - Balancing Tears & Laughter

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-01 14:33:52 UTC
Then deal with afk players like the rest of us do, or is this a stealth nerf afk cloaking thread?

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-01 14:43:34 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Then deal with afk players like the rest of us do, or is this a stealth nerf afk cloaking thread?
No Sir, this is a thread designed to improve communication in EVE Online between players and help them connect faster.

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-01 14:46:25 UTC
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Then deal with afk players like the rest of us do, or is this a stealth nerf afk cloaking thread?
No Sir, this is a thread designed to improve communication in EVE Online between players and help them connect faster.

then I could see this feature in, Corp, Alliance, and any player opened chat channel but not local.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-06-01 14:53:27 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
then I could see this feature in, Corp, Alliance, and any player opened chat channel but not local.
So if I am a newbie I'm not allowed to benefit from this feature and chat with other newbies in local chat in my lovely high-sec constellation? This makes no sense.

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#11 - 2013-06-01 14:57:12 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Then deal with afk players like the rest of us do, or is this a stealth nerf afk cloaking thread?
It's actually a "buff afk cloaking" thread. For the first couple times people will be at ease once they see the AFK icon. And then they will end up getting ganked when they go about their business. Soon afterwards we will get "nerf AFK cloaking & AFK icons" thread.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-01 15:02:43 UTC
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
then I could see this feature in, Corp, Alliance, and any player opened chat channel but not local.
So if I am a newbie I'm not allowed to benefit from this feature and chat with other newbies in local chat in my lovely high-sec constellation? This makes no sense.

Corp chat

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-06-01 15:16:04 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
then I could see this feature in, Corp, Alliance, and any player opened chat channel but not local.
So if I am a newbie I'm not allowed to benefit from this feature and chat with other newbies in local chat in my lovely high-sec constellation? This makes no sense.

Corp chat

Because you say so? See I don't like to be told what to do or with who to speak or not in a game for which I pay to play with my own money.

This thread was made to support an idea. You should argue why this is a good idea or not, not to tell me what to do or not to do.

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-01 15:19:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
then I could see this feature in, Corp, Alliance, and any player opened chat channel but not local.
So if I am a newbie I'm not allowed to benefit from this feature and chat with other newbies in local chat in my lovely high-sec constellation? This makes no sense.

Corp chat

Because you say so? See I don't like to be told what to do or with who to speak or not in a game for which I pay to play with my own money.

This thread was made to support an idea. You should argue why this is a good idea or not, not to tell me what to do or not to do.

It is a bad idea as it provides even more intel for local chat, if only applied to Corp chat, Alliance Chat, and Player Created Chat channels it would be fine.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
T'Laar Bok
#15 - 2013-06-01 15:26:15 UTC
If it gets implemented at all it should only be available while in station.

Amphetimines are your friend.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok
Theodore Giumbix
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-06-01 15:26:57 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
It is a bad idea as it provides even more intel for local chat, if only applied to Corp chat, Alliance Chat, and Player Created Chat channels.
And why more intel is bad? A system full with AFK people is the same thing as an empty system, which helps you by not wasting time and this is the only extra thing you get as "intel". How is this bad exactly?

Yo, New Eden, got capsuleers in da house. What's up? And their pimped rides. Yo, capsuleer, if ya want me to unpimp your ride, lemme hear ya say Wat?
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-01 15:27:48 UTC
Vladimir Norkoff wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Then deal with afk players like the rest of us do, or is this a stealth nerf afk cloaking thread?
It's actually a "buff afk cloaking" thread. For the first couple times people will be at ease once they see the AFK icon. And then they will end up getting ganked when they go about their business. Soon afterwards we will get "nerf AFK cloaking & AFK icons" thread.

No it's a nerf because the cloaked ship is going to have to move before he can do anything. (unless the victim somehow wandered within point range on his own) So everyone is going to see the "afk" tag disappear and dock up.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#18 - 2013-06-01 17:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
It is a bad idea as it provides even more intel for local chat, if only applied to Corp chat, Alliance Chat, and Player Created Chat channels.
And why more intel is bad? A system full with AFK people is the same thing as an empty system, which helps you by not wasting time and this is the only extra thing you get as "intel". How is this bad exactly?

OP... welcome to a game where the ENTIRE playerbase has a notorious reputation to abuse and twist any mechanic that gives them a distinct advantage AND any mechanic change (even a well intended one) has repercussions that go above and beyond the original scope of its intent.

Having more intel tools is good... when you actually have to put effort into using them. Getting additional intel on top of an already existing mechanic that is always there, cannot be fooled, and cannot be turned off (see: Local) is one sided and bad.

Your idea... while well intended... will cause issues for cloakers, miners, ambush tactics, bait tactics, bluff tactics, etc (because they all rely on patience and/or misinformation).

edit: smoothed out some wording.

How did you Veterans start?
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#19 - 2013-06-01 17:11:36 UTC
And if you'd searched you could've prevented the flaming you are getting right now.

No to this in Local, Yes to this for Corp, Private and Alliance chats.

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Ellendras Silver
CrashCat Corporation
#20 - 2013-06-01 17:19:38 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Theodore Giumbix wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
then I could see this feature in, Corp, Alliance, and any player opened chat channel but not local.
So if I am a newbie I'm not allowed to benefit from this feature and chat with other newbies in local chat in my lovely high-sec constellation? This makes no sense.

Corp chat

Because you say so? See I don't like to be told what to do or with who to speak or not in a game for which I pay to play with my own money.

This thread was made to support an idea. You should argue why this is a good idea or not, not to tell me what to do or not to do.

It is a bad idea as it provides even more intel for local chat, if only applied to Corp chat, Alliance Chat, and Player Created Chat channels it would be fine.


you sir are pathetic in every post that remotly is about cloaking, intel, PVP or afk tactics you post the remove local well newsflash no local is bit of the point of WH space. i do agree that its intel part is too strong but i think the same about afk cloakies not that i am annoyed by them as i live in WH space.

[u]Carpe noctem[/u]
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