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WANTED: Retribution for Retribution

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WheatGrass
#1 - 2013-02-22 05:17:37 UTC
If you are as insulted as I am by flying around space, as a high security status player, with a Concord sanctioned "WANTED" notice on your profile, then feel free to join me in deleting characters and accounts during the FanFest 2013 Party at the Top of the World event.

While some players are busy shaking there asses off during the party, It's my intention to be making use of the "Trash It" feature and to delete characters of this account and others -perhaps entire accounts as well.

Such an investment... such a waste
All of those 'man hours', all of the purchased computer hardware, software, and internet access
All of those tens of millions of skill points
All of those missions run...
All of the ships, modules, planetary installations, implants, offices, skill books...
All of those forum posts...
All for a game who's developers treat us like sheet


Now you know my time-line CCP and CSM. CCP, you've got until then to provide assurances that you can be respectful and grateful towards those whose money you depend upon.

For those of you with similar sentiments and who are attending FanFest 2013, perhaps you could protest at the event by wearing a sandwich board with the word "WANTED" displayed prominently on it. If I were there, it's what I'd do.

Fly safe.

R.I.P.
WheatGrass
2008.05.24 - 2013.04.??
Epitaph: "No. You can't have my stuff."
WheatGrass
#2 - 2013-02-22 05:17:50 UTC  |  Edited by: WheatGrass
Reserved

Update 2013.02.23
Per the CSM Minutes from December 2012, the only way that CCP will change bounty hunting is by players leaving the game. So, off I go with my alts and second account with me. May I have an "AMEN" to that Alekseyev Karrde?

Also in the minutes, CCP Soundwave was reported to have stated that, "He suspected most people complaining were annoyed because they were not used to being able to be “poked” by other players." Your ASSumption, Mr. CCP Soundwave, is incorrect. The annoyance is in being "poked" directly by CCP in the way of public defacement. If you are interested, you can find that I have not retaliated against any who have placed a bounty on me. I am willing to accept the bounty dynamic but not in the way it has been implemented.

Thank you CCP SoniClover and Two Step for your involvement in the bounty discussion as recorded in the minutes.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#3 - 2013-02-22 05:44:31 UTC
So what are you mad about? Are you mad that CCP finally delivered on something that they promised? And that it works?

Edit: Quit getting mad at free market capitalism.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-02-22 05:51:39 UTC
WheatGrass wrote:
Reserved
You might actually have more to say?
Unforgiven Storm
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-02-22 09:48:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Unforgiven Storm
Roll

You know what is coming right?

Everyone is about to descend on this thread and troll you to dead.

Big smile

dude, its a game and its Eve, interacting with other players and finding out that most of them just want to kill you comes with the package

Unforgiven Storm for CSM 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13. (If I don't get in in the next 5 years I will quit trying) :-)

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#6 - 2013-02-22 14:11:06 UTC
Bounties for everyone!
Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
#7 - 2013-02-22 14:14:15 UTC
WheatGrass wrote:
Epitaph: "No. You can't have my stuff."

Meh, worth a try anyway. Can I have your stuff?

"Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk

Be careful what you wish for.

mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-02-22 14:41:50 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
You seem upset because you've only got a 100k bounty, yet get a wanted sign for such a small number.

I have, courtesy of my alt Corestwo, remedied that. Your WANTED tag is now worthy of the bounty on your head. You're welcome. If you intend to quit anyway, that's fine - I'll get my money back.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal

Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#9 - 2013-02-22 15:02:27 UTC
You know what I want? Your stuff.

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog

Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-02-22 15:31:25 UTC
Excellent bounty bait troll.

I wish I had thought of this.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
No Response
#11 - 2013-02-22 15:33:19 UTC
In-game bounties, producing out-of-game tears.

System working as expected.

http://www.wormholes.info

Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#12 - 2013-02-22 15:34:40 UTC
WheatGrass wrote:
For those of you with similar sentiments and who are attending FanFest 2013, perhaps you could protest at the event by wearing a sandwich board with the word "WANTED" displayed prominently on it. If I were there, it's what I'd do.


I sincerely hope others take you up on this. I'll have my camera with me along with my giggle-juice. Fun times!

BTW: CCP's already spoken about this issue, go read the winter summit minutes.

"Soundwave clarified that he doesn’t mind people being bothered by it, because no EVE player has the
right to be shut off from the rest of the world. He sees bounty hunting as something that’s impacting
players playing EVE as a single player game in a way nothing they tried before, and was glad they were
interacting with the community whether negatively or positively. He suspected most people complaining
were annoyed because they were not used to being able to be “poked” by other players. "

.... don't expect the sandwich boards to do anything but entertain the rest of us. Twisted

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary

Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
No Response
#13 - 2013-02-22 15:41:47 UTC
In my alliance, we started handing out bounties as door prizes.

http://www.wormholes.info

Ashterothi
Malevelon Roe Industries
#14 - 2013-02-22 19:59:18 UTC
This post brings up a serious concern that needs to be addressed ASAP. This is more important then anything else that the CSM can possibly be doing, and thus all attention should be diverted to this matter in light of its time sensitive nature:

Once he biomasses his toon, can he still edit the reserved post? CAN HE POST FROM THE GRAVE?!? Shocked

If so this is a serious break in immersion and I will unsub all 24 of my accounts unless this is rectified.
Ashterothi
Malevelon Roe Industries
#15 - 2013-02-22 19:59:30 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2013-02-22 23:26:58 UTC
WheatGrass wrote:

Epitaph: "No. You can't have my stuff."


Can I steal it instead?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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WheatGrass
#17 - 2013-02-23 07:03:56 UTC
mynnna wrote:
You seem upset because you've only got a 100k bounty, yet get a wanted sign for such a small number.

I have, courtesy of my alt Corestwo, remedied that. Your WANTED tag is now worthy of the bounty on your head. You're welcome. If you intend to quit anyway, that's fine - I'll get my money back.
You are kind, myanna.

FWIW, I'm convinced that the original bounty was a result of a question asked in the Help Channel after the deployment of Retribution. I suppose I could ask the player for a reason but I don't need one. I'm not angry about bounties -just angry about flying around space with a Concord sanctioned "WANTED" label.


Varius Xeral (post #10), I'm no troll. For confirmation, you may look up this tune in-game after the "party at the top of the world" to see if I've been added to the bio-mass or not. I'd rather not do any bio-massing but have committed in a petition to do so and am comfortable following through with that commitment. Not delivering on the plan to bio-mass tunes would leave me with some serious splaining to do and would be detrimental to my credibility. Being in a position to provide explanations might be less than optimal.


If C.C.P. appropriately addresses concerns then bio-massing can be avoided which is something also stated in the petition. Avoidance seems unlikely since CCP needs to see people leaving the game (per the CSM Dec 2012 minutes) before taking action.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-02-23 11:15:08 UTC
There is only one thing worse than being WANTED

And that's not being wanted.


"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-02-23 11:16:14 UTC
WheatGrass wrote:
Not delivering on the plan to bio-mass tunes would leave me with some serious splaining to do and would be detrimental to my credibility...


Honestly, I wouldn't worry about this if I were you.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-02-25 12:06:51 UTC
OK, I'll bite.

Some clarification for you, OP: The "wanted" tag does not make you an outlaw and does not make you attackable in high sec, it only means that if anyone kills you under which conditions whatsoever, he will get a small share of your ship's worth.
So your bounty does not interfere with your high sec business at all.

If you already knew this, the only reason for you to be mad about it would be some RP-reasons- you want your toon to be a good guy and find the wanted-tag immersion breaking.
I guess that you are mainly into industrial stuff and pve- if you did a lot of pvp, you wouldn't be worried about the bounty, since it would vanish within a few weeks anyway.
If you are good at industry, you probably have a lot of isks. Have you already tried to contact the fine young gentleman who put the bounty on your head and offered him money to get it removed?
I know, I know..that would result in player interaction and that is not acceptable.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

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