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Revolutions in Thought

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#1 - 2013-02-21 11:04:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Saede Riordan
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Revolution
rev·o·lu·tion [rev-uh-loo-shuhn]
noun
1. an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed.
2. Sociology . a radical and pervasive change in society and the social structure, especially one made suddenly and often accompanied by violence. Compare social evolution.
3. a sudden, complete or marked change in something: the present revolution in church architecture.
4. a procedure or course, as if in a circuit, back to a starting point.
5. a single turn of this kind.


This post is meant for capsuleers and baseliners alike, and many baseliners will likely find it more useful then those in the capsuleer class, whose liberty and freedom are for now ensured by the technological supremacy we represent.

Every generation needs a revolution. Experience has shown repeatedly and without fail that even under the best forms of government, those entrusted with power will slide further and further into tyranny over time without fail. No society, no culture, and no governments are immune from this power creep. Little by little, fascism and tyranny will leak into every form of government and every system of economics, and if you are not willing to put your foot down and say 'no I will not tolerate this' then the activity will continue. We can see it happening right now, in news from all corners of the cluster. Sectarian violence, old prejudices flaring up, instability, the treating of entire ethnic groups like lesser beings, there's lots of tyranny out there right now. Its easy to give in, and let things your government does slide, because in many cases acting out brings about retribution from those in power. All it takes for the forces of tyranny and decay to succeed is for people to not think its worth their time to get involved. This hurts everyone in the long turn as a government becomes increasingly draconian. You might not be effected now, but eventually everything comes around.

In order to be afforded any semblance of actual rights, you have to be ready to defend those rights, and fight to preserve the vitality of your liberty and your freedom from harm both foreign and domestic. Not with force of arms, though that is sometimes required, but by being able to change your mind and discard ideas that may not work as well as you're told they do. As capsuleers, it would be very difficult to take this freedom and liberty from us, as it makes us Unbound what we are. We have been let out of the box and we are not going back inside. We are to at least a certain degree a well informed and very well armed populace. Control won't be taken from us anytime soon. But for the average person out there, the best way to ensure your freedom is to take matters into your own hands as we do instead of entrusting it to someone else. Capsuleers have freedom because we have the power and arms required to ensure this freedom. If you as an individual are not willing to do the same as us and step up to defend yourself and your rights, sooner or later someone will come along in a position of power that puts their best interests ahead of yours.

Governments are meant to serve the people by sheltering them from chaos or anarchy, and while I think we can all agree that feuding warlords are not the ideal state of society, neither too is the slow but steady erosion of what it means to be a human being, as those in power decide what's best for everyone. As long as people serve their governments, instead of governments serving their people the problem will worsen. Governments are comprised of people, and can only exist as long as the people decide to let it. If a government has failed in the duties entrusted to it, then it is the responsibility of the population to replace that government with one that serves their interests.

A bit of chaos is good, out of it come new ideas, new inventions, and new ways of doing things. In order to ensure the existence of a society where you are respected, you need to be ready and willing to step up and defend your rights and freedoms, not by overthrowing anything else except for what you've been holding in your head, that may not be applicable anymore.

Humanity will not solve the problems it has with the same thinking we used to create them. We are a clever, adaptable, and creative species, but in order to make use of the talents we have, we must be willing to set aside what we think we know, and what we take for granted and try something new. One must be willing to let go of those things that are holding them back if they wish to move forward. Change will happen, and any society that fails to adapt to their changing world will not survive in the long run. This is true of evolutionary biology and it is true of culture.

I don't know where we will go from here, or what future direction our species or our society will take, or how to solve the problems that now face us. But, in order to have any understanding of the future we have to be able to set aside our preconceived notions, throw out everything we take for granted, and try something in a new way.

We've gotten very lazy, and we're many generations overdue for revolution in our thinking. I'm not talking about blood and violence, although I'm afraid that's already happening. I'm talking about a revolution that's probably the hardest kind. The kind that takes place in the human mind. To be able to tear everything down, throw everything out, and start with a completely fresh paper and say... okay, how do we solve this problem?
Frederick Auscent
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-03-06 12:07:07 UTC
I see where you're coming from, Miss. I think something as such would be solved by making others aware of our no-confidence in the current establishment. Our want to drive forward to something better and prove to people that there is a better way.

A revolution from below (If that is what you're suggesting) is a bold, but not impossible move. For me, I know full well I'm not a fighter, and I know full well that for me, charging head long into a battle is a sure fire way of getting my ship destroyed.

I am however not blind, and I know when to support someone who needs it. I may not be able to provide ammunition for weapons, or biomaterials for bioweapons. But I can provide raw materials, metals and base ingredients to support a cause that I think is right.

Ms Riordan, you have my NEOCOMM, I would like to discuss this matter further with you at a time convenient to you.



Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#3 - 2013-03-06 12:25:53 UTC
Are you going to continue to talk in this generic fashion, or are you going to get around in attempting to make relevant what you've said to New Eden? Various Gallentean approaches to revolution? The Caldari attitude? Amarr Scriptural interpretations? Minmatar thoughts? Case studies and examples of revolution in cluster history? Differences from revolts or rebellions in those latter instances?
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#4 - 2013-03-06 12:59:05 UTC
Not terribly written but still a waste of my time.

No precision.

Premise is tired.

No solutions presented.

If you wanted a think-tank you should have just said so. But then this wouldn't be the best medium for such an open topic, you'd just be inviting trolling.

You know, it occurs to me. You styled this off of Aria Jenneth, didn't you Saede?

You should review her writing style. She was thorough in her brevity.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
#5 - 2013-03-06 13:44:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bataav
I found Ms Riordan's ideas on revolution thought provoking, myself.

Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Are you going to continue to talk in this generic fashion, or are you going to get around in attempting to make relevant what you've said to New Eden?

I'm not sure if you're aware of the news, Inhonores, but I'd suggest that current affairs around New Eden make this entirely relevant to New Eden.

Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:
No precision.

I believe the post in its current form, purposefully (I assume) without specifics and without examples given, allows the theory of challenging the status quo through revolution to be discussed as a concept, without the conversation descending into the usual quagmire of arguement and counter argument, inevitably focusing too heavily on the politics and conflicts of one faction or group and their opponants.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#6 - 2013-03-06 13:54:38 UTC
Bataav wrote:

I believe the post in its current form... allows the theory of challenging the status quo through revolution to be discussed as a concept...


You believe that. I'll argue that it has failed to accomplish this given the time that elapsed before the thread got touched at all.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Nomistrav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-03-06 13:59:18 UTC
Reading this brings to mind a concept of an alliance of nations and empires to ally against a common threat. Sansha Kuvakei.

Intriguing that the next time that this was called for it was met with such disdain that it could not come to fruition, and thus his occasional incursions persist...

Curious... If we cannot set aside our differences to ally, once more, against a common threat; are we doomed to fail if yet another arrives? If this sudden surge of planetary clones decides to turn the tides en masse, turning entire nations over simply by disallowing the usage of their planetary resources, could we abandon our petty violence in order to stim the bleeding of an incessant gash?

I don't believe so.

Perhaps in the small scale, some alliance of rebels from each nation who bear their better ideals in mind and colliding on the common themes... Gallentean culture and liberty, Amarrian faith and piety; while trivial to dream of that concept it's not so far out of reach... There are many in this galaxy, this space... and the human genome is not something so easily quelled.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama

Sylux Raynes
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-03-06 14:00:40 UTC
Quinzel Nikulainen wrote:


You believe that. I'll argue that it has failed to accomplish this given the time that elapsed before the thread got touched at all.


I would argue that this is not a failure on the post itself but on the community. The post is written in the correct place to be viewed by the target audience and open discussion lines, that this did not occur is the failure of the target audience not the post itself.
Quinzel Nikulainen
Kokako Acquisitions
#9 - 2013-03-06 14:35:02 UTC
Sylux Raynes wrote:

I would argue that this is not a failure on the post itself but on the community. The post is written in the correct place to be viewed by the target audience and open discussion lines, that this did not occur is the failure of the target audience not the post itself.


That is some lazy, backwards logic.

Can't decide whether you'd make a horrible marketer, given that your statement demonstrates that you have no understanding of the concept, or a great marketer, given that you're trying to sell me **** and convince me it's fullerite.

Ex-Kaalakiota citizen. Ex-Hyasyoda citizen. CEO of KŌKAK, a Nugoeihuvi affiliate corporation.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#10 - 2013-03-06 15:54:45 UTC
Bataav wrote:
I'm not sure if you're aware of the news, Inhonores, but I'd suggest that current affairs around New Eden make this entirely relevant to New Eden.


Oh, it is relevant by coincedence, maybe. Knowing miss Riordan, however, she has exhibited very little interest in exploring the nuances and beliefs of each culture of New Eden, instead relying on her own intellect. That's fine, but one needs to apply such thoughts to specific cases and examples, otherwise it's just ivory tower nitter-nattering.

For example, miss Riordan has curtly stated that "some cultures are better than others". She has claimed how cultures that support equal rights for women, discourage the oppression of the individual, and so forth, are superior to those which do not. Clearly, then, she would be most at home supporting Gallentean beliefs. After all, these ideologies haven't sprung out of nowhere; many are built on thousands of years of philosophy from the major homeworlds. Miss Riordan would be right at home with the great thinkers of Gallentia.

I understand miss Riordan identifies herself as a futurist. If she wants to be taken seriously, I would encourage her to take a look at Gallentean futurism, for it holds the origin of her tech-savvy beliefs.

Of course, the Gallente are so unhip their trousers fall down. So I wouldn't be surprised if she turns it down.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#11 - 2013-03-06 16:32:55 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Bataav wrote:
I'm not sure if you're aware of the news, Inhonores, but I'd suggest that current affairs around New Eden make this entirely relevant to New Eden.


Oh, it is relevant by coincedence, maybe. Knowing miss Riordan, however, she has exhibited very little interest in exploring the nuances and beliefs of each culture of New Eden, instead relying on her own intellect. That's fine, but one needs to apply such thoughts to specific cases and examples, otherwise it's just ivory tower nitter-nattering.

For example, miss Riordan has curtly stated that "some cultures are better than others". She has claimed how cultures that support equal rights for women, discourage the oppression of the individual, and so forth, are superior to those which do not. Clearly, then, she would be most at home supporting Gallentean beliefs. After all, these ideologies haven't sprung out of nowhere; many are built on thousands of years of philosophy from the major homeworlds. Miss Riordan would be right at home with the great thinkers of Gallentia.

I understand miss Riordan identifies herself as a futurist. If she wants to be taken seriously, I would encourage her to take a look at Gallentean futurism, for it holds the origin of her tech-savvy beliefs.

Of course, the Gallente are so unhip their trousers fall down. So I wouldn't be surprised if she turns it down.


Oh for the love of pete, Seriphyn, the Gallente did not invent futurism.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-03-06 20:26:07 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Bataav wrote:
I'm not sure if you're aware of the news, Inhonores, but I'd suggest that current affairs around New Eden make this entirely relevant to New Eden.


Oh, it is relevant by coincedence, maybe. Knowing miss Riordan, however, she has exhibited very little interest in exploring the nuances and beliefs of each culture of New Eden, instead relying on her own intellect. That's fine, but one needs to apply such thoughts to specific cases and examples, otherwise it's just ivory tower nitter-nattering.

For example, miss Riordan has curtly stated that "some cultures are better than others". She has claimed how cultures that support equal rights for women, discourage the oppression of the individual, and so forth, are superior to those which do not. Clearly, then, she would be most at home supporting Gallentean beliefs. After all, these ideologies haven't sprung out of nowhere; many are built on thousands of years of philosophy from the major homeworlds. Miss Riordan would be right at home with the great thinkers of Gallentia.

I understand miss Riordan identifies herself as a futurist. If she wants to be taken seriously, I would encourage her to take a look at Gallentean futurism, for it holds the origin of her tech-savvy beliefs.

Of course, the Gallente are so unhip their trousers fall down. So I wouldn't be surprised if she turns it down.


Oh for the love of pete, Seriphyn, the Gallente did not invent futurism.


Maybe it was sarcastic ?