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Paid name Change and Corp history removal?

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#1 - 2012-11-15 08:16:36 UTC
The problem:

Everytime I look for a character on the Bazaar he turns out to be a corp thief or otherwise unwelcome.

Solution:

Offer paid name changes that include a full history wipe.

$100 per character, would reduce abuse of the mechanic, maybe even only allow it on transferred characters.


The Bazaar is not nearly as awesome as it could be, make it that awesome!

Now with 100% less Troll.

dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-11-15 08:22:37 UTC
Having a hard time selling your character?

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Charles Case
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-11-15 08:30:13 UTC
What about $1000 per character?
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#4 - 2012-11-15 08:35:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
I believe you've forgot to wear your monocle.

P.S. PLEX could / should be sufficient for name change service.
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#5 - 2012-11-15 08:42:23 UTC
$100 is too much for it, how about a swimming pool?
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#6 - 2012-11-15 08:46:21 UTC
What, this again, how many times do we have to...

Tom Gerard wrote:
Oh...

/supported

Who put the goat in there?

Jack Miton
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-11-15 08:46:44 UTC
how about no, scott

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-11-15 08:56:51 UTC
One night with Hilmar should be the price
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Grog Barrel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-15 09:06:31 UTC
A world without repercussions? Sounds ****** to be honest.
Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#10 - 2012-11-15 09:08:33 UTC
Posting in yet another ****** Tom Gerard thread.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#11 - 2012-11-15 09:28:42 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
P.S. PLEX could / should be sufficient for name change service.
Sure, so every corp thief can just pay with scammed in-game currency to wipe the slate clean Roll

The bazaar isn't supposed to be a recycling bin for scammers. If somone ruined his character's reputation, to the point were it is un-sellable; deal with it. I'm sure the tears harvested while ruining said rep will be of some comfort Pirate
ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-11-15 09:32:03 UTC
Guys, please try stay on-topic and avoid the trolling.

I know it is hard for some of you Bear

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Borascus
#13 - 2012-11-15 09:37:47 UTC
It's an idea, that would need some kind of lore change, the Pilot's Licence is like a birth certificate for capsuleers, if you wanted to pay to have it removed it would be "state interest sir" or "i'm being stalked in-pod your honour", otherwise you'd need a slightly devolved Concord, that's a bit bent, and prone to ignoring mysteries.

But yea, paying with PLEX just yells "and we take 10% of your stealingz"
CCP Falcon
#14 - 2012-11-15 09:38:49 UTC

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.

Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already Smile

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-11-15 09:41:09 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.

Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already Smile



Perhaps it could be a one-off offering specifically FOR character trades then?

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Dave stark
#16 - 2012-11-15 09:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
CCP Falcon wrote:

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.

Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already Smile



while i'd love to be able to change the name of a purchased character as some way to signify it has a new owner, at the same time it'd be too easy for people to abuse it.

the cost and hassle of a character transfer is nothing in comparison to effectively erasing an entire character's history, even if you can see past aliases since very few people would really bother to check.

i think it has more drawbacks than benefits, personally.

edit: where would it stop? if you can change your name, why not your corp history, etc.
Myxx
The Scope
#17 - 2012-11-15 09:43:22 UTC
Not worth the downsides and ramifications it would have on the game.
CCP Falcon
#18 - 2012-11-15 09:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Dave stark wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.

Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already Smile



while i'd love to be able to change the name of a purchased character as some way to signify it has a new owner, at the same time it'd be too easy for people to abuse it.

the cost and hassle of a character transfer is nothing in comparison to effectively erasing an entire character's history, even if you can see past aliases since very few people would really bother to check.

i think it has more drawbacks than benefits, personally.

edit: where would it stop? if you can change your name, why not your corp history, etc.


Oh, I see your point completely.

It's hard to distinguish where the line would be, and on a personal level I wouldn't support being able to erase or modify a character's corporation history at all. Your history of employment in EVE should always be your character's legacy, and you should on that basis pick and choose whom you work for carefully.

There's some good points being brought forward in this thread Cool

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DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-11-15 09:47:59 UTC  |  Edited by: DeBingJos
No, reputation is important in EVE. If you want an unknown character, start a new one.

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ISD Praetoxx
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-11-15 09:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Praetoxx
CCP Falcon wrote:

I've always wondered how the player base would feel about this.

I'm not too keen on the idea of a name change personally, unless there was a one click ability to see all past names and aliases.

Even then, I still have very mixed feelings about it. On one hand a name change might be useful for people who've bought a character on the Character Bazaar and love the skill set but not the name, on the other hand your name is your identity and reputation in EVE and the prospect of being able to wipe the slate clean if you do something wrong isn't my particular cup of tea.

I'll be interested to see how this thread develops though, some valid points made already Smile



It seems to be a topic that comes up again and again. IF it does get implemented, a history of past names/corps should be a given. And only a unique never before used name would be permitted as a replacement.

Afterall, when you guys purchase a new character, you want to make your own history, not inherit it!

Alternatively you could always wait for the 'Power of 2' offer when it comes around again.

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