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Battlecruiser Rebalancing.

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Minnie Starz
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-11-11 22:11:53 UTC
My question is people are saying get BC V ASAP and cruisers 4.

My question is... is each racial BC skill going to take the amount of time it would take to train the current BC V skill, or since its going racial is it gonna be 1/4th the time since its gonna be divided into 4 categories now.... make sense?

Sinful Injustice
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-11-11 22:23:54 UTC
BC is currently a x6 skill, cruiser x5 with frigs and dessy at x2

To make the new racial bc skills a x1.5 (1/4 their current) would be impractical to say the least.

Also since the new system is supposed to be progressive (frig - dessy - cruiser - bc) it would be ilogical to make the new bc skill a lower multiplier than the cruiser skill

Making the cruiser and bc skill both x4 would however fit since x4 is double that of the two x2 skills and bs skills are x8

This is all purely conjecture of course
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#3 - 2012-11-11 22:26:54 UTC
tl:dr

Training it now with current times to BC V + Cruiser 3 and get it converted will be shorter then after the patch where you have to train them seperately.

Same counts for the change in destroyer skills.

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Minnie Starz
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-11-11 22:29:32 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
tl:dr

Training it now with current times to BC V + Cruiser 3 and get it converted will be shorter then after the patch where you have to train them seperately.

Same counts for the change in destroyer skills.



Yea i got it thanks lol... just sucks i had my whole plan figured out, but i just switched to BC V then gonna start doing Dessy V.

Does it need to be Racial cruiser 4 also, and im guessing racial frigate 4 also in order to unlock it once they do the patch?

Does anyone know the ETA, i was late getting the memo ShockedShocked i have 37 days til i have BC V, and Dessy V done... it would be really lame for the patch to come out like 1 day before my BC V finished.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-11-11 22:51:56 UTC
op should've been like me and trained all these skills to V years ago Cool

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Minnie Starz
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-11-11 23:26:26 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
op should've been like me and trained all these skills to V years ago Cool



well i found a dev quote saying "Want to make this clear to everyone, the stuff in this blog is not coming on the 4th with Retribution. This blog covers some of what we are going to be working on in the beginning of next year."

so i should be good. Big smile

and im guessing its not gonna be in the beginning of the year either if there just going to start working out it next year. so id say we have at least 3-4 months i would think... still going to keep training it JUST incase :)
Esruc 'Sadim
Lazaretto
#7 - 2012-11-12 02:42:47 UTC
CCP's policy is "if you can fly it before the changes you will be able to after. So you only need to train cruisers to 3. After the changes the requirements will be pushed up to cruiser 4 so you will get an automatic bump up...as I understand it

Insert something witty and clever here

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-11-12 03:07:55 UTC
Esruc 'Sadim wrote:
CCP's policy is "if you can fly it before the changes you will be able to after. So you only need to train cruisers to 3. After the changes the requirements will be pushed up to cruiser 4 so you will get an automatic bump up...as I understand it


Look at this guy's posture... there can be no trust. don't listen to him.

Train them to 5 to be safe Straight <--- srs face

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Esruc 'Sadim
Lazaretto
#9 - 2012-11-12 05:54:26 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Esruc 'Sadim wrote:
CCP's policy is "if you can fly it before the changes you will be able to after. So you only need to train cruisers to 3. After the changes the requirements will be pushed up to cruiser 4 so you will get an automatic bump up...as I understand it


Look at this guy's posture... there can be no trust. don't listen to him.

Train them to 5 to be safe Straight <--- srs face


Never trust a monocle. Especially Surfin.

Traim them to 5 to be safe What?<---srs'r face

Insert something witty and clever here

J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#10 - 2012-11-12 08:21:33 UTC
Minnie Starz wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
tl:dr

Training it now with current times to BC V + Cruiser 3 and get it converted will be shorter then after the patch where you have to train them seperately.

Same counts for the change in destroyer skills.



Yea i got it thanks lol... just sucks i had my whole plan figured out, but i just switched to BC V then gonna start doing Dessy V.

Does it need to be Racial cruiser 4 also, and im guessing racial frigate 4 also in order to unlock it once they do the patch?

Does anyone know the ETA, i was late getting the memo ShockedShocked i have 37 days til i have BC V, and Dessy V done... it would be really lame for the patch to come out like 1 day before my BC V finished.


Quote:
CCP's policy is "if you can fly it before the changes you will be able to after. So you only need to train cruisers to 3. After the changes the requirements will be pushed up to cruiser 4 so you will get an automatic bump up...as I understand it


^ That mainly...If you can use it now, you can use it after the patch. If you can't, you can't...You won't get the ability to suddenly fly a ship or be rejected from flying a ship due to a patch.


As for your training time, it's too long. The patch rolls out on 4 December, so that is 22 days.
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20121204T12&p0=16

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2012-11-12 08:32:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Just to avoid any misunderstanding:

Destroyer level X + Racial Frigate 3 = Racial Destroyer level X

Battlecruiser level X + Racial Cruiser Level 3 = Racial Battlecruiser level X

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145728#post2145728
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145814#post2145814 [best example]
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2146090#post2146090
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2149140#post2149140

CCP Fozzie wrote:
We'll do the destroyer and battlecruiser skills in one batch, after the BC and BS rebalance is done.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2155506#post2155506

CCP Fozzie wrote:
Want to make this clear to everyone, the stuff in this blog is not coming on the 4th with Retribution. This blog covers some of what we are going to be working on in the beginning of next year.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145578#post2145578

CCP Fozzie wrote:
I'll come right out and say the skill changes will not come on December 4th with Retribution but that you should still seriously consider taking them into account when you pick your next skills.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2146465#post2146465
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#12 - 2012-11-12 10:02:16 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Just to avoid any misunderstanding:

Destroyer level X + Racial Frigate 3 = Racial Destroyer level X

Battlecruiser level X + Racial Cruiser Level 3 = Racial Battlecruiser level X

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145728#post2145728
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145814#post2145814 [best example]
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2146090#post2146090
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2149140#post2149140

CCP Fozzie wrote:
We'll do the destroyer and battlecruiser skills in one batch, after the BC and BS rebalance is done.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2155506#post2155506

CCP Fozzie wrote:
Want to make this clear to everyone, the stuff in this blog is not coming on the 4th with Retribution. This blog covers some of what we are going to be working on in the beginning of next year.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2145578#post2145578

CCP Fozzie wrote:
I'll come right out and say the skill changes will not come on December 4th with Retribution but that you should still seriously consider taking them into account when you pick your next skills.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2146465#post2146465


All right, I stand corrected.

Looks like we still have time to skill up those skills, means more of my characters can make the pre-required skills Big smileBig smile

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#13 - 2012-11-12 10:48:52 UTC
In other words, CCP will start working on it soon™ and that means it'll be done in soon™+2-5 months. So I wouldn't expect it to hit TQ before april-juli next year. You'll be fine.
Boomhaur
#14 - 2012-11-13 06:12:46 UTC
To put it simply BC V, and Destroyer V, and enough racial frig/cruiser skill to make sure you can pilot any of those ships and you be fine. If you can fly it before patch you can fly it after. So if they increase the req of a ship you can fly before, they up your skills so you can fly it after.

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