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Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-09-03 11:44:27 UTC
Dear CCP

Can you buff and lo and Null so we don't keep listening to them bleat about how hi sec needs to be nerfed Roll

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-09-03 11:56:19 UTC  |  Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2
I doubt that would stop the whining. Anything short of driving hi sec to their ganks or out of the game is unacceptable to them.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-09-03 11:59:30 UTC
Rats wrote:
Dear CCP

Can you buff and lo and Null so we don't keep listening to them bleat about how hi sec needs to be nerfed Roll

Tal


No need to touch high sec eventually, all CCP needs to do is give to players making their own content in their players driven content game, the tools to make it better for them to do stuff there than high sec:

->100% refining with no waste for a character with refining 5
-> set refining cost accordingly to standings
->let station owner decide the amount of market fees from minimum/max pre defined by CCP (max is less than high sec OC)
->increase number of slots for manufacturing, decrease time/cost/waste
->significantly increase invention/research slots
->significantly decrease research/invention timers -increase % invention success
->make reactions be possible in player owned stations with specific upgrade or specific station

Why would I ship stuff from null to high sec and then get it back in form of ships/mods if doing it where I live would be more profitable?

Eventually reduce number of high sec industry slots and increase a little bit timers/cost so those real high sec players are not completely put aside and can still make some profits, they count no matter how much some one loves/hates them, they simply count too.

brb
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#4 - 2012-09-03 14:29:40 UTC
Rats wrote:
Dear CCP

Can you buff and lo and Null so we don't keep listening to them bleat about how hi sec needs to be nerfed Roll

Tal

Right, because whiners from low and null are the problem in EVE. Roll

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#5 - 2012-09-03 14:33:06 UTC
No amount of buffing can "fix" low-sec. Change it.

Nullsec needs buffed but also fixed. Corp/Alliance controls can be something that would give a indirect boost, also fixing POSs, redoing industry in 0.0. reverting the anomoly nerf, market only usable if you have docking rights, adding more entry points, etc.

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Hypercake Mix
#6 - 2012-09-03 14:51:13 UTC
Low-sec needs something unique.

Null-sec needs better POSs and stuff.

High-sec is fine. It'll be too boring anyway if everyone moves out.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-09-04 08:06:35 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Rats wrote:
Dear CCP

Can you buff and lo and Null so we don't keep listening to them bleat about how hi sec needs to be nerfed Roll

Tal

Right, because whiners from low and null are the problem in EVE. Roll



Yep they are, talk about poison the atmosphere. Haven't you got some griefing to do somewhere ?

Tal


I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
Josef Djugashvilis
#8 - 2012-09-04 08:09:40 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Rats wrote:
Dear CCP

Can you buff and lo and Null so we don't keep listening to them bleat about how hi sec needs to be nerfed Roll

Tal

Right, because whiners from low and null are the problem in EVE. Roll


At long last, james talking sense.

Good for you james.

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William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#9 - 2012-09-04 08:13:04 UTC
Make boosters legal!

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pussnheels
Viziam
#10 - 2012-09-04 08:54:01 UTC
null already pretty good only thing people need to do is putting in some effort
yes that is the problem you have to put effort into it , just like everything else in EVE
Sure it can do with some refinements but the biggest whines are from people who don't realize that accomplishing things in EVE need some effort from their part aswell
sitting in a station with your pvp ship doing nothing but whinning will NOT earn you iskies

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Josef Djugashvilis
#11 - 2012-09-04 09:08:11 UTC
I have asked, and been told that the average player in null can only make about 30 mill per hour.

Even as a mainly hi-sec player, I think null folk should be able to make more per hour than I do running level 4s

But, making hi-sec worse will not make null better.

Fix null.

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Frying Doom
#12 - 2012-09-04 09:17:45 UTC
How about fixing them and giving people a reason to go there.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
pussnheels
Viziam
#13 - 2012-09-04 09:19:04 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
I have asked, and been told that the average player in null can only make about 30 mill per hour.

Even as a mainly hi-sec player, I think null folk should be able to make more per hour than I do running level 4s

But, making hi-sec worse will not make null better.

Fix null.


30 mil a hour , sure if you are only belt ratting and only counting the bounties, null sec is more than that , i can make more in highsec doing lvl 4 missions than 30mil /.hour,

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
pussnheels
Viziam
#14 - 2012-09-04 09:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Frying Doom wrote:
How about fixing them and giving people a reason to go there.

there are plenty of reasons only problem are the large allaince blocs , they either complete paranoid about letting others in or just use the size of their sov to measure their Epeenwith and do nothing else with it

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Frying Doom
#15 - 2012-09-04 09:27:18 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
How about fixing them and giving people a reason to go there.

there are plenty of reasons only problem are the large allaince blocs , they either complete paranoid about letting others in or just use the size of their sov to measure their Epeenwith and do nothing else with it

I am sure if you ask them they will have a perfectly good excuse as to why they feel the need to have a Hummer sized Null sov block.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Alayna Le'line
#16 - 2012-09-04 09:37:10 UTC
Hypercake Mix wrote:
Low-sec needs something unique.


Hi thread I saw you yesterday, and I stick to my opinion of yesterday.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-09-04 09:43:41 UTC
What exactly is wrong with lowsec?

I don't care if bears are too scared to go there, more sites and good fights for the rest of us.

It's really only the bears who are missing out on all the isk and fun.

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Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
#18 - 2012-09-04 09:57:59 UTC
Roime wrote:
What exactly is wrong with lowsec?

I don't care if bears are too scared to go there, more sites and good fights for the rest of us.

It's really only the bears who are missing out on all the isk and fun.


Apparently it needs more isk and incentive for peeps to move there, fun is relative btw.
Arec Bardwin
#19 - 2012-09-04 10:29:41 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Rats wrote:
Dear CCP

Can you buff and lo and Null so we don't keep listening to them bleat about how hi sec needs to be nerfed Roll

Tal

Right, because whiners from low and null are the problem in EVE. Roll
Agreed.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2012-09-04 10:54:49 UTC
Jax Bederen wrote:
Roime wrote:
What exactly is wrong with lowsec?

I don't care if bears are too scared to go there, more sites and good fights for the rest of us.

It's really only the bears who are missing out on all the isk and fun.


Apparently it needs more isk and incentive for peeps to move there, fun is relative btw.


Not sure why there needs to be more people, or that increasing ISK would attract people there. You can lose your ship in there, you know, and that seems to be a problem for some people.

I do think that low should have DED 1-3/10 sites just like hisec, so that newer players could enjoy ls exploration as well.

Hisec-exclusive stuff doesn't really make much sense in general.

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