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The problem with low and null

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Singoth
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#1 - 2012-07-22 15:20:35 UTC
People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.


TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.



Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D

Less yappin', more zappin'!

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#2 - 2012-07-22 15:21:54 UTC
Singoth wrote:
People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.


TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.



Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with dicks.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Mag's
Azn Empire
#3 - 2012-07-22 15:22:44 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Singoth wrote:
People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.


TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.



Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with dicks.
I think you nailed it and maybe he got nailed by it.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-07-22 15:23:00 UTC
People who hang out in pvp zones should not engage in pvp and/or abide some kind of stupid bushido honour code? Is that what you're saying?

You know what? I agree, come visit VFK. Come through the EC- gate. I'll get you clearance, you obviously have some stellar ideas.
Singoth
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#5 - 2012-07-22 15:24:46 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Singoth wrote:
People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.


TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.



Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D

You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with dicks.

Well, what can I say, dicks are awesome. I got one myself.

Less yappin', more zappin'!

Arsedestroyer
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-07-22 15:26:15 UTC
Singoth wrote:

TL;DR: dicks.


Indeed
Singoth
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#7 - 2012-07-22 15:26:38 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
People who hang out in pvp zones should not engage in pvp and/or abide some kind of stupid bushido honour code? Is that what you're saying?

You know what? I agree, come visit VFK. Come through the EC- gate. I'll get you clearance, you obviously have some stellar ideas.

I'm just saying that if you want people to come to low and null, but keep shooting everyone, it's not the way to get more people there.

That's why I made this thread, you know, a complaint thread about complaints.

Less yappin', more zappin'!

Damsel in Distress
The Scope
#8 - 2012-07-22 15:27:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Damsel in Distress
erm - wrong thread
Singoth
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#9 - 2012-07-22 15:27:15 UTC
Arsedestroyer wrote:
Singoth wrote:

TL;DR: dicks.


Indeed

Oh god why.

Less yappin', more zappin'!

Alexzandvar Douglass
Whole Squid
#10 - 2012-07-22 15:30:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexzandvar Douglass
Singoth wrote:

TL;DR: dicks.


Null sec or EVE in a nutshell?
DrSmegma
Smegma United
#11 - 2012-07-22 15:30:33 UTC
Singoth wrote:

Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D


Not getting trolled, not from me, anyway. You're right, people are just too hostile. In low and null, people mistake the complicated social engine that is the core of Eve Online for a simple spaceships death match.

Removing kill boards would help a lot, imo. Most kills happen for the bragging rights.

(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.)

Anyway, the game mechanics lead to the typical current nullsec behaviour.

I have a theory about this: If you're a nullsec pilot, you're most likely a follower at heart, a drone for a bigger alliance. If you're a drone, you're most likely quite dense. And if you're quite dense, you're most likely aggressive. Therefor nullsec players = aggressive. They don't really need different kinds of players there anyway.

They don't need traders or industrials, that stuff happens in high sec, just like mining.. the design of low and nullsec is just focused on fighting.

I like what CVA is doing. People like you and me should go support them, actually. They are unfolding more of Eve's potential.

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.

Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-22 15:30:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
Or people could grow a set of balls to go with those dicks and just go to lowsec and not worry so much about if they get attacked.

TL;DR Balls!

James315 for CSM 8!

Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2012-07-22 15:35:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
DrSmegma wrote:
(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.)
We don't brag about kills.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

DrSmegma
Smegma United
#14 - 2012-07-22 15:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: DrSmegma
Mag's wrote:
DrSmegma wrote:
(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.)
We don't brag about kills.

Is Angry23 still there....

Oh yea he is.. a caldari shuttle, a minmatar shuttle.. then the pods.. an Ibis.. you must be proud of yourselves.

Good job at kicking 1000s of players out of Eve in your lifetime. (The funny part is, you actually feel proud of it. Admit it. Else you wouldn't be doing that, and you wouldn't be posting your kills on a public website.)

I got smartbombed in Rancer on my first day by angry23 in an Ibis, 4 years later I make a new char and he's still there, smartbombing me in my Ibis.

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#15 - 2012-07-22 15:39:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
DrSmegma wrote:
Mag's wrote:
DrSmegma wrote:
(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.)
We don't brag about kills.

Is Angry23 still there....

Oh yea he is.. a caldari shuttle, a minmatar shuttle.. then the pods.. an Ibis.. you must be proud of yourselves.

Good job at kicking 1000s of players out of Eve in your lifetime. (The funny part is, you actually feel proud of it. Admit it. Else you wouldn't be doing that, and you wouldn't be posting your kills on a public website.)

I got smartbombed in Rancer on my first day by angry23 in an Ibis, 4 years later I make a new char and he's still there, smartbombing me in my Ibis.
So, where's the bragging?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#16 - 2012-07-22 15:43:33 UTC
Singoth wrote:
People there should be more welcoming to outsiders instead of shooting everything that isn't blue.
Yes, it's that simple. That's the only problem. AMAZING, isn't it?
You may say that's how EVE works, and I fully agree, but it's also the thing that prevents people from going to low and null.
And be honest, you are complaining about a lack of people in low and null, but trust me, you won't be happy with more people in low and null, because of carebears not interested in combat. And yes, EVE actually has more aspects than just comparing your space penises to other space penises. It's hard to grasp, but I don't care.


TL;DR: lowsec and nullsec people are dicks. If they are not dicks, people will go to low and null.
TL;DR: don't be dicks.
TL;DR: dicks.



Thanks for reading this useless thread that WILL get trolled to death. :D


TL;DR I can't win in PvP therefore the winners are dicks.

In other words, you are a sore loser.

I'm an American, English is my second language...

Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-07-22 15:51:18 UTC
The best way to enter low or null is to show up in a gang or fleet in appropriate ships, with fittings that aren't a huge joke and fight your way in (surprise), or join the right corp/alliance.
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#18 - 2012-07-22 15:52:33 UTC
Singoth wrote:
space penises. It's hard to grasp

l0rd carlos
Goryn Clade
#19 - 2012-07-22 16:18:08 UTC
I want more people in lowsec!
I want more people in lowsec so i can shoot more!

What good comes from more pilots in low, if i cant fight with them?

Youtube Channel about Micro and Small scale PvP with commentary: Fleet Commentary by l0rd carlos

DrSmegma
Smegma United
#20 - 2012-07-22 16:21:48 UTC  |  Edited by: DrSmegma
Mag's wrote:
DrSmegma wrote:
Mag's wrote:
DrSmegma wrote:
(It's a whole different matter that people brag about killing things that aren't worth bragging about - try Rancer, you'll get smart-bombed as a 1 day old char in an Ibis.)
We don't brag about kills.

Is Angry23 still there....

Oh yea he is.. a caldari shuttle, a minmatar shuttle.. then the pods.. an Ibis.. you must be proud of yourselves.

Good job at kicking 1000s of players out of Eve in your lifetime. (The funny part is, you actually feel proud of it. Admit it. Else you wouldn't be doing that, and you wouldn't be posting your kills on a public website.)

I got smartbombed in Rancer on my first day by angry23 in an Ibis, 4 years later I make a new char and he's still there, smartbombing me in my Ibis.
So, where's the bragging?


1.) It's on a public website.

2.) Why did you feel refered to in the first place if you didn't identify yourself with my description..

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.

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