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CSM Member Issler Dainze: A Threat To The Legitimacy of the CSM and All of Lowsec

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EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-05-18 22:03:23 UTC
Issler Dainze recently sent this missive to her alliance:

Quote:

They Cannot Win!!
From: Issler Dainze
Sent: 2012.05.17 06:57
To: The Honda Accord,

So coward blimp ego mittens hired similar coward to destroy our POSs in Illamur. To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives, so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM. Basically Eve is beyond broken. CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

So what does BEEP become during the occupation? First, we hunt these bastards! They don't take us seriously! We have ships, guns and motivation. Goons in high sec are a joke! We make that clear to them.

We help drive the tide to take Eve back.

More about that soon, but players like us are the majority and we are fed up!! Let's take out game back!! Time for the bullies to have some of that sand that always like to talk about to be kicked in their face!

So let me know what you think, where is the future for us?

Issler


In this eve-mail, we can see Issler - a CSM member, who is supposed to work with the CSM to improve the game for everyone - trying to trash the CSM in a transparent ploy to attempt to cover up her massive failures as an alliance leader.

These destroys POS were in lowsec, where as even even a three-week old newbie who accidentally autopiloted through rancer knows, can be shot at by anyone. Lowsec being an area of "low security" is, as you might guess, a fundamental part of the game. Even the most vile highsec miner bleeting to have suicide ganking removed from the game does not dare challenge that there are places in EVE where you can shoot each other: he just merely wants to be immune in highsec.

Now, as anyone knows, if you go into lowsec, you risk getting blown up. Issler foolishly wasted her corporation's assets by placing them in lowsec, where her alliance was too weak to defend them. When - naturally - they got blown up, Issler could have owned up to her hideous mistake. Or not. But that would merely be a reason to snicker at her alliance some more, rather than a thread. Instead, Issler chose to continue her habit of self-aggrandizement at the expense of the CSM (repeatedly demonstrated despite the public remonstrations of the rest of the CSM). She chose to paint her complete failure as an alliance leader not as a personal failure flowing from her many flaws, but instead claiming that her alliance had suffered losses because it had "littlerally [sic] be[en] attacked by the CSM".

Had it? Well, let's ask Hans Jagerblitzen, or Two Step, or any of the fine CSM members who had no connection whatsoever to the CSM. One might ask if Issler herself had somehow attacked her own alliance - though one can make that case given her actions. Claiming that her alliance was "littlerally " attacked by the CSM claims the CSM is not a body representing EVE, but instead a faction within eve. One that Issler is expected to support and contribute to, but by all accounts has contributed less to than even Darius III.

Do the right thing, Issler: Resign. If you are incapable of comprehending who the CSM even is - and that they are not Pandemic Legion - then you ought not be on it.
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-05-18 22:05:58 UTC
getting in on the ground floor of this trainwreck
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-05-18 22:07:16 UTC
All pubbie POS must die
Malak Dawnfire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-18 22:08:13 UTC
Anybody have popcorn?
Eternal Error
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-05-18 22:12:44 UTC
First page. Let's see some screenshots.
Josef Djugashvilis
#6 - 2012-05-18 22:13:09 UTC
More goon attention seeking in the forums.

This is not a signature.

Killer Gandry
Fenghuang Corporation
Ethnobotanical Demonolatry
#7 - 2012-05-18 22:14:30 UTC
Why the tears?

Doesn't sound much different from the trashtalk the Goons and Co use to rattle their sheep into goats.

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#8 - 2012-05-18 22:15:28 UTC
Looking forward to some Issler shitposting.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-18 22:15:38 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
More goon attention seeking in the forums.

More people create threads calling for attention to GoonSwarm ie Destroy the Goons! Ban the Goons! Ban Mittani! Stop (hot issue of the day that GoonSwarm has a lot of involvement in)! than we create threads calling attention to ourselves.
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-05-18 22:16:07 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Why the tears?

Doesn't sound much different from the trashtalk the Goons and Co use to rattle their sheep into goats.


What sheeps are those? Our victims?
Nymblar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-05-18 22:19:51 UTC
I heartily welcome BEEP to invade VFK and break the monotony of shooting blues.
Twulf
Order of the Eagles
#12 - 2012-05-18 22:20:31 UTC
Priceless - Goon tears about someone else's tears. On the Irony.

Stop crying and play the game. CSM is a joke, has been a joke and will always be a joke as long as it is a popularity contest instead of real respentation by each and every "Group" of players in the game.

3 PvP CSM Memebers (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 PvE CSM memebers (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 Industral CSM members (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 Miner CSM Members (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)

Each voted in by players in EVE.

This is the only way to make the CSM even close to worth it.
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-05-18 22:20:49 UTC
Nymblar wrote:
I heartily welcome BEEP to invade VFK and break the monotony of shooting blues.

Never stop shooting blues.
Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2012-05-18 22:24:31 UTC
Twulf wrote:

3 PvP CSM Memebers (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 PvE CSM memebers (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 Industral CSM members (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)
3 Miner CSM Members (1 HighSec, 1 Lowsec, 1 Null)

more like
3 pvp csm members (1 nullsec, 2 irrelevant)
9 pve csm members
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#15 - 2012-05-18 22:27:36 UTC
It's very discouraging to see Issler resort to attacking the CSM and CCP, rather than taking responsibility for her own mistakes. She's lost my vote today.

Very disappointing. What?
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#16 - 2012-05-18 22:28:19 UTC
Is Issler even significant as a member of the CSM?

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

SetrakDark
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-05-18 22:30:11 UTC
Who?
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-05-18 22:30:32 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
Is Issler even significant as a member of the CSM?

Well, due to her actions she's lost the ability to influence other CSM members, but all CSM members have an equal voice (minus the iceland trips).
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#19 - 2012-05-18 22:32:56 UTC
Serge Bastana wrote:
Is Issler even significant as a member of the CSM?

She kind of ****** up being at all relevant before the voting started.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#20 - 2012-05-18 22:33:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Issler Dainze
I stand stand by it all.

Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.

CCP won't save us, CSM won't save us, this is Eve. I'm not attacking CCP or CSM, I am saying they aren't in Eve to "save" us. That is the point of this message to my alliance, we need to not roll over and die. This message could go out to any other high sec corp or player that feels that they are under the boot heel of oppression in Eve.

So feel free to take it any way you want. But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge. There is no help coming. We face this challenge alone.

Practically boilerplate for most cries to rally together during hard times and impossible odds.

Issler
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