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So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?

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#1 - 2012-04-29 21:35:03 UTC
Just want to understand the logic behind the game company taking such a stance.

Piracy, scamming, and griefing, all that I understand. But what is happenign with the "Burn Jita" event is completely different.

I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot. (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.)

I think that EVE's biggest strength is also it's biggest weakness. It has become a little too much like RL. In ALL mmos, there is nothing a powerful corp, or a guild can do to prevent other people from playing the game any way they like. They may have the best items/gear... the most friends... the most influence.... but there is absolutely nothing allowing the more powerful players to interfere with, or hinder in anyway the game-play of others.

I can directly compare what is happening in EVE to a cable company. Let's say thousands of people are watching TV and their favorite channel gets blocked.

Suddenly a malignant individual decides to hack into the cable network, and blocks this channel. Off course at this point the cable company would try to do whatever they can to track down and deal with this individual.

But what's happening in EVE is more like, the cable company saying "Hmm.. This is interesting... all these people..They are so boring, laying on their couch watching movies.. Let' add a little something into their lives. Let's make them cry and scream with anger because they lack in diversity of emotions. Lets conduct a social experiment of sorts and let this hacker continue what he is doing.... "

Really, I think CCP is giving GF a little too much credit, allowing them to be the force of nature in EVE. The Yang that comes with the Yin, the spoon of tar in the barrel of honey, the black stripe in a pattern of white and black stripes... Well you get the point.

If CCP feels we need a little "spice" in our life, then why not alter those Sansha invasions to go directly into Jita or Amarr, or Rens or whatever... or program NPC pirates to go after mining ships at random times. Who the hell appointed GF to decide when the carebears have been having a too calm a life and need to be "shaken up a bit"?

Honestly I think those who chose the carebear gameplay style are already punished enough. They are essentially blocked out of all the fun gameplay elements. They cannot have access to best loot, they cannot mine the best ore, they cannot roam the world of eve without getting blown up as soon as they step out of their little fenced pen. But they are not choked enough... Lets tighten the noose some more, right?! Wrong.... Press this group of people too hard, and you got no one to grief anymore. No one to block. No one to make cry...

In a sense, this whole thing reminds me of our society, the extreme respect and admiration for professions such as doctors or lawyers and the complete lack of that same respect for those in lower professions. But wait.... We need these people! If no one was flipping burgers, no one was cleaning out the garbage, etc, etc... What kind of the world would be be living in?

Carebears fill an essential role in EVE. Without them, EVE would be missing a lot of what makes it great.

I believe that the best game, is one where people can choose to play any way they like. If you want to be a boring carebear, be a boring carebear. If you want to be a vicious pirate, be one. But the two should not be mixed forcefully because that ruins the gameplay experience for those that do not want to PvP. (there's lowsec and 0.0 for that!) Don't these people also pay the $15/mo fee? And if they do, why is it that they don't deserve to play EVE any way they like without being interrupted?


Quote:


Lead game designer Kristoffer Touborg tells Eurogamer that player-driven events such as Burn Jita are what make Eve Online different from other games.

"We want people to be able to do this. If Goonswarm want to do it, we want them to do it and we want them to have a great time doing it," Lander added. "The worst thing we could do is to stop it happening. It would be appalling for the game. It would be against everything we stand for."


And what the hell do you stand for Kristof? People making other people's life miserable?

Quote:
"The people they're going to hurt now are people who have quite a lot of security," he said. "There's not a lot of turnaround on ships and goods in Empire. I think it might be healthy if we lose a lot of this industrial power, if they have to go back and save up for their ships again and be a part of the cycle of life everyone else is a part of."


You "think".... I "think" it would be "healthy" for EVE if the Goons lost a lot of their power, but they are losing nothing aside from their ships an a small part of their wealth, while the Carebears are losing everything.

Templis CALSF
#2 - 2012-04-29 21:36:16 UTC
Not even going to bother with reading that wall of text but:



It's a sandbox, cry more
#3 - 2012-04-29 21:37:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
CCP supports it because it pisses people like you off.

Also, too bad for the carebears that are only good at accumulating wealth.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2012-04-29 21:37:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Garnoo
because they can...
isnt this the best advertisment last time? cheap... and in almost every gaming portal... Twisted

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE

Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-04-29 21:37:50 UTC
~Devswarm Federation~ follow the clues ~
#6 - 2012-04-29 21:38:04 UTC
OP should set up a booth and bend over so that everyone can have a turn at him.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-29 21:38:41 UTC
This post is why we kill you.
CCP supports us.
People flock to join EVE and pay $15/month.

The problem is with you.
#8 - 2012-04-29 21:39:36 UTC
Those in power get to do what they like. Goonswarm are currently the corporation with the most power. Stick around long enough and you'll have forgotten about the Goons and will be complaining about some other corporation.

This is the nature of the sandbox.
#9 - 2012-04-29 21:44:05 UTC
Few days of suicide ganking and you feel the need to cry in public?

Go diaf...ingame of course
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-04-29 21:44:38 UTC
The average whinebear:

Claims that EVE is a sandbox
Doesn't like it when kids start kicking sand

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

#11 - 2012-04-29 21:50:13 UTC
I don't think you understand Eve. Look at your quote "Don't these people also pay the $15/mo fee? And if they do, why is it that they don't deserve to play EVE any way they like without being interrupted?"

No. You pay $15 to play Eve how you like, just like Goons pay $15 to play Eve how they like, which is what makes the game worth playing.
Pen Is Out
#12 - 2012-04-29 21:50:55 UTC
It's a player driven event, and if CCP step in and do something about it they are breaking the game and ruining the game experience. If you have a problem with "Jita Burns" here's a protip, don't go into Jita! And if your posting because you got ganked and thought CCP were going to save you then you probably deserved it.

There once was an interesting signature here... It has long since disapeared. 

#13 - 2012-04-29 21:51:11 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:

I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot. (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.)


Yes you can do whatever you want, but you're too busy thinking you should be wrapped in cotton wool and have your hand held to go out and do it.

I was in Jita just yesterday, sat near the undock watching what was going on. I didn't feel that Jita was 'off limits' to me in any way.

WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...

Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-04-29 21:52:00 UTC
I cannot understand the logic in complaining about a group of people, instead of forming your own countergroup

I guess whiners gonna whine, and slackers gonna slack

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Caldari State
#15 - 2012-04-29 21:53:06 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:

And what the hell do you stand for Kristof? People making other people's life miserable?



Since Stoffer is an Ex-Goon he could be easily convinced to advocate this little event with a few free beers during Fanfest.
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-04-29 21:53:39 UTC
Holy **** look at that OP. You are so mad. SO MAD
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-04-29 21:53:53 UTC
Burn Jita, hulkageddon and other events are the reason why EVE is the best MMO on the market. You cant do anyting close to this in other MMO's (Burn Stormwind?)

That said - Burn Jita doesnt bother me, cause I dont buy from Jita unless I just HAVE to.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

#18 - 2012-04-29 21:54:38 UTC
Sandbox

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

#19 - 2012-04-29 21:55:08 UTC
Kurai Kihaku wrote:
I think that EVE's biggest strength is also it's biggest weakness. It has become a little too much like RL. In ALL mmos, there is nothing a powerful corp, or a guild can do to prevent other people from playing the game any way they like. They may have the best items/gear... the most friends... the most influence.... but there is absolutely nothing allowing the more powerful players to interfere with, or hinder in anyway the game-play of others.


Greetings capsuleer,

Welcome to New Eden. This is a harsh and cold universe where the weak wake up in clones until they tire of this life. I am curious though; why do you believe your way of life in New Eden should be enforced on others when you are unhappy that others try to enforce their way on you?

Are you that which you seem to despise?

In any event - you have control over your own destiny. You are an immortal roaming these stars. Your response is in your hands. You can complain. You can turn it around and fight back. You can do whatever you desire. You simply need to take the initiative.

Good luck and regards,

Shian Yang
Mercenary Coalition
#20 - 2012-04-29 21:55:24 UTC
/facepalm

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

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