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Crysantos Callahan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-04-24 17:45:46 UTC
Well, Eve got me, so I need to know a little bit more... and more... and more.

1. What makes me attractive as a target? What ships are other players after? I guess Industrials with the cargo... but in general, what draws evil :P ? As far as I understood it the loot has a 50% chance per item?

2. Where can I get "real" price infos, I mean to compare prices. In the market details there's just the region info, but if I'm going to get me something big and expensive I'd like to have a better overview.

3. Maybe you could point me to where to put an extra eye on when I want to buy a better ship, because there's just so much different aspects of the different classes and equipments.

I don't know yet where I wanna go in Eve, I think maybe in production but also with the ability to fight not too poorly. Just mining sounds a little bit boring although the ISKs to be made ... yamyam. I'm thankful or every piece of advice, if you can point to specific pdfs/sites that would be enough, I'm eager to learn and read, it's just so much ;)
Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-04-24 18:17:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyric Lahnder
1. Shiny things and haulers. Some groups will stalk people in faction or Tech II Battleships because they know if they suicide gank them theres a good pay out and a pretty good chance for carebear tears.

2. eve central
http://eve-central.com/
There it is buddy go nuts.

3. Battleclinnic
http://eve.battleclinic.com/browse_loadouts.php?mode=date
Organize by highest ratting fit, read what its used for and its stats. not comments. Not the be all end all but a start. A corp with more experienced players is the best source for ship fits and good uses.

Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.com I Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#3 - 2012-04-24 18:21:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Baneken
Crysantos Callahan wrote:
Well, Eve got me, so I need to know a little bit more... and more... and more.

1. What makes me attractive as a target? What ships are other players after? I guess Industrials with the cargo... but in general, what draws evil :P ? As far as I understood it the loot has a 50% chance per item?

2. Where can I get "real" price infos, I mean to compare prices. In the market details there's just the region info, but if I'm going to get me something big and expensive I'd like to have a better overview.

3. Maybe you could point me to where to put an extra eye on when I want to buy a better ship, because there's just so much different aspects of the different classes and equipments.

I don't know yet where I wanna go in Eve, I think maybe in production but also with the ability to fight not too poorly. Just mining sounds a little bit boring although the ISKs to be made ... yamyam. I'm thankful or every piece of advice, if you can point to specific pdfs/sites that would be enough, I'm eager to learn and read, it's just so much ;)


1. anything excessively expensive such as running missions in 16bil fits in 500mil faction BS or running 3x plexes in shuttle on auto pilot to jita ...
Or well anything that is clearly worth a shot of getting from a 50% drop chance while target is using an autopilot without any resemblance of a tank.
In other words be an easy, juicy, target with a clear schedule and you will get ganked eventually.

2. try http://www.jitonomic.com/ for example

3. Only way to know to when you need a new ship is to understand what it's stats actually mean and what means to your current game activities.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-04-24 19:04:13 UTC
1 and 2 are actually properly answered.

As for 3: There are plenty of guide regarding ships. But keep in mind what others use as a fit might not be good for you. And bigger isn't always better. Every ship in EVE has its use.

And as for battleclinic fits, I like to look at them but ALWAYS make my own fits, mainly as there are plenty of people on battleclinic that are EFT warriors, means they use EFT to make an out of game virtual fit and never used it.

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Culmen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-04-24 19:46:11 UTC
Crysantos Callahan wrote:


1. What makes me attractive as a target? What ships are other players after? I guess Industrials with the cargo... but in general, what draws evil :P ? As far as I understood it the loot has a 50% chance per item?



All the answers to this question answer what makes you a BIGGER target.
The actual answer was summed up by George Mallory.
"Because You're There"

Alot of people find enjoyment from comparing killboard stats, and a noob kill is still a kill.

There is a fine line between a post and a signature.
Crysantos Callahan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-04-24 21:27:27 UTC
Yeah, I guess you're never save here, but I wanted to know what makes me a really interesting target, but thanks for the heads up. Thank you for the links, that's why I didn't want someone to tell me "take ship X, it's the best", but some sites where to get behind all these shiny numbers. It sounds great that you can use even the low tech ships for a lot of fun / dirty things unlike in most games.

But it's really a lot to grasp in the first days and to plan something for the next weeks and to decide where to invest best as well as finding a corp that suits my needs and vice versa. Maybe I'll go into mining first to be able to make some money.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-24 21:45:12 UTC
Crysantos Callahan wrote:
Yeah, I guess you're never save here, but I wanted to know what makes me a really interesting target, but thanks for the heads up. Thank you for the links, that's why I didn't want someone to tell me "take ship X, it's the best", but some sites where to get behind all these shiny numbers. It sounds great that you can use even the low tech ships for a lot of fun / dirty things unlike in most games.

But it's really a lot to grasp in the first days and to plan something for the next weeks and to decide where to invest best as well as finding a corp that suits my needs and vice versa. Maybe I'll go into mining first to be able to make some money.


Okay, to give you an idea what makes you a target. Pick any racial industrial ship, throw a lot of RL money into the game to buy 72 PLEX (around 500mil ISK each, or 15 Euro). Redeem them in Jita station (main trade hub in EVE, means also the most gankers), put them in your cargohold and undock.

It's a ship with the tank of a tissue but a cargo worth 35.5bil ISK, means you will get ganked.

Actually the story about the 72 PLEX happened in EVE already.

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Crysantos Callahan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-04-24 21:55:23 UTC
Hui... but that somebody deserved to be parted of the heavy burden of his wealth :P

Is there a way for players to scan my equipment? I saw Cargo Scanners, is there a way to scramble them?
gfldex
#9 - 2012-04-24 21:58:09 UTC
typical targets

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-24 22:24:53 UTC
Crysantos Callahan wrote:
Hui... but that somebody deserved to be parted of the heavy burden of his wealth :P

Is there a way for players to scan my equipment? I saw Cargo Scanners, is there a way to scramble them?


There are cargo scanners (scan your cargohold) and ship scanners (scan what you have fitted + your capacitor level).

You can negate cargo scans in 2 ways:

1. Using the corp hangar array of an Orca is not scan able (or any other ship with a corp hangar array, but those are all capital ships, means low-sec / 0.0 only where people don't scan you but just kill you).

2. Using double layer trick. Scans can go 2 layers deep, your ships cargohold is layer 1, if you have stuff in a container in your hold, the inside of the container is the 2nd layer.

The trick you use is put your stuff in a container, and then make a courier contract to the person shipping it around (this does require 2 characters). Because courier contract places all items in a "box", means it's now a 3 layer thing (cargohold, courier contract box, container) means all they will see on their ships scans is a container.

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Crysantos Callahan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-04-25 07:47:35 UTC
Ah okay, thanks. How much sense would it make to create a second character right away and to skill it?
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#12 - 2012-04-25 17:59:49 UTC
Crysantos Callahan wrote:
Ah okay, thanks. How much sense would it make to create a second character right away and to skill it?


Depends entirely on what you intend to do with it.
Crysantos Callahan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-04-26 00:18:12 UTC
thx, but I thought that you could do something with 2 chars of the same account, but now I know that would require two accounts.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#14 - 2012-04-26 00:31:46 UTC
Crysantos Callahan wrote:
thx, but I thought that you could do something with 2 chars of the same account, but now I know that would require two accounts.


No, you could do that particular trick with only two accounts. It'd just take a bit of logging on and off (log main on, contract items to alt, switch to alt, create courier contract for main, switch to main, haul the stuff, switch to alt, contract items back to main, switch back to main).