Events and Gatherings Archive

Yes, you should stop right now, but that has nothing to do with any changes. You will be bored to tears trying to grind the standings and skills for datacore research when you should be just getting into better ships to access more content in the game.

The income is only noticeable if you invest heavily in it across several characters, and even than it only supplements isk over a long term basis, it will never be enough to sustain ship losses in the short term.

If you want accessible passive income that has a much more interesting future (giving Dust’s release) I would look into Planetary Interaction.

Once you’re well established in the game, than if you want to set them up as an investment (like a stock portfolio or savings bonds) than go for it. But in the short term, it will only hold you back from doing a lot of other stuff instead, and won’t pay you enough to be worth it.

CCP, I understand the desire to remove the word "passive" from the current datacore farming mechanic. Moving any datacores to FW LP stores sound dumb, though. Why would anyone even think of that? It doesn't fit in with the idea of what FW is (pew pew), it doesn't go with the backstory, it just doesn't make sense.

Instead you can consider other changes, like introducing more R&D agents but making them only give RP if you complete missions for them. Just don't move any datacores to FW. It won't be fixing a problem, it will just be a nonsensical change.

It's just that I only have one character and got used to the 60 mil / month due to datacore farming which I began a few months ago. And I have no interest in getting rid of this form of income.

So far no one delivered an explanation why datacores even should be available in the LP store in the future - which isn't just stoopid because no one will ever look for datacores in the FW LP store; but it also would remove a neat form of passive income for a *lot* of ppl out there who don't even do FW.

I cant believe ccp thinks this docking stuff is a good idea.

Its like they arnt even listening to actual FW players just retreads of ideas from years ago that would not work in the current environment.

you really need to add something in this fw patch, like the ability to create a personal wardec against wartarget spy alts in our militia. or just straight up vote to expel them.

Please, please, please don't do this. This will result in one side winning and the other side not being able to fight back because they cannot base out of systems close enough to take systems back. Once one side has conquered all/most of the lowsec station systems, it will be game over because the losing side will have no place to base out of in order to take systems back. You need to REALLY think about this.



Again, this is very scary. I could see this causing a massive spike in datacore prices, which causes a spike in T2 prices, which turns T2 BPOs into huge isk printing machines again which is what invention was created to end the T2 monopolies. If you do decide the datacores are better as LP items, then they should be in the normal NPC LP stores as well (maybe cheaper in FW though). FW only will NOT be able to meet the demand for datacores without inviting a HUGE influx of farming alts which is exactly what FW does not need.

The docking rights thing has needed to happen for ages. Honestly, I don't think it goes far enough. I'd like to see it so any neutral with really bad faction standings towards the sov holding faction can't dock in a warzone station. Not only would it cut down on incredibly stupid pirate carrier/station games, it would be a lot less ridiculous than having people who shoot you on a regular basis as your neighbors.

And as far as the sov stuff goes, I'm all for it as long as you don't go overboard and make it so not having it is painful.

Gameplay should be about consequences. If you don't defend your systems, you lose your access. Anything else is just asking ccp to hold your hands and give you a cookie. In other words, it ain't EVE.

If R&D agents are removed, and datacores moved to faction warfare, I would damn well expect to have the skills i trained for this to be refunded.
- On average, nearly 3 months of skills were trained just for datacores.
- Its pretty bloody annoying to have those skills trained and no longer reap the benefits.
- No, i dont want to use those skills for copying blueprints, I trained them purely for datacores.

CCP needs to look at ways to IMPROVE aspects of the game, not alienate players by nerfing things that players have spent large amounts of time on setting up, and fine tuning their characters to make isk so they dont need to spend heaps of time just making isk to support pvp.

The amount of time spent to a) train the skills, and b) grind the required faction means that any player that ahs datacore agents setup will have wasted a massive amount of time and effort in something that could be pretty much redundant...

Can a dev please give us a more detailed explanation of intended nerfs to datacore production.

Looks like a great improvement for FW, really pleased to see the attention going into FW.

Cant wait!!

Completely removing access to all stations in a system is problematic due to the nature of Faction War mechanics. What people do not understand is that flipping a system from one faction to another is a process that can take as little as 8 hours.

Therefore, you can go to bed, and if people in another time zone do not plex or defend, you can lose access to your stuff in that station.

There are several problems with this

1. This essentially nerfs pvp. If you can't get to your ships, or don't have the ability to base close to the warzone due to station mechanics, you are essentially making it more difficult for people to pvp in FW. (Not making the pvp more difficult, which would be fine...but actually making it harder to pvp at all.

2. The inability to dock in all stations doesnt make sense from a storyline perspective. Why would a station that is irrelevant to FW (ie: The Scope) prevent me from docking

3. The fact that neutrals can all dock means that you are essentially getting punished for being in FW. You are in FW so suddenly you may not be able to dock. You shuld be encouraging people to join FW, and this definately does not do it

4. FW, for good or bad, encourages new pvpers to join its ranks. In my opinion, if I was new, the inability to access my stuff, and the focus that would be needed for me to figure out the station/FW mechanics and try to location to somewhere 'safe' etc would be a show stopper. I would say, "well, this is really dumb and unproductive, I think I will go play something else now.


This will have multiple results

People will leave Faction War and fight as neutral instead due to frustration with the system

People will spend a lot of time and effort focusing on how to get around the system (ie: using neutral alts to get to their stuff) in stead of focusing on playing EVE and having fun

What they could do instead:

-Don't prevent docking, just prevent use of some of the station's facilities. Or

-Have the station guns that currently shoot GCCs shoot whomever the opposing militia is. We can still sneak in, but we certainly can't camp the station easily, or use it as effectively. Or

-Have the current stations permanently belong ONLY to the people in that militia. (No neutrals, no opposing militia.) Have station guns 'turn off' if opposing militia takes over, and remove access to agents, or something to that effect. Make it very desireable to keep the station in ownership, but

do not make the consequences a show stopper for many EVE players.