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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-03-23 20:10:04 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Xython wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
You are so easily impressed. That fact has been known for years. I am more impressed by the fact most bots are in highsec.


This isn't a surprise at all. You think all those ice miners running 20+ accounts are actually at keyboard, alt tabbing like mad? Of course not.

That's why we Goons decided to do the Ice Interdiction. The entirety of EVE's economy is hedging on a bunch of botters, players who don't like the game enough to actually be bothered to play it.


You are a liar, just the like the rest of your cohorts.

The ice interdiction you and your bunch perpetrated (and still are) was for 2 reasons:

1. To mess with the income of high sec players.
2. By removing the high sec competition, thereby increasing ice product prices, your own null sec botters made significantly more ISK.


you're an idiot if you think anybody mines ice in nullsec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Zircon Dasher
#42 - 2012-03-23 20:10:34 UTC
So long as CCP makes all the goo dropping roids limited in number and easily found I think it is generally a good thing.

Limited numbers of areas and well marked locations of said roids is necessary to put groups in competition/conflict. CCP would be smart to create a crap ton more ways to compete with eachother inside the PVE content of the game.

Now if players do not want to compete or provide the risk, like in Highsec Incursions, then so be it. They should suffer the negative consequences of such play, whatever those may be.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#43 - 2012-03-23 20:12:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Andski wrote:
Axe risk-free high-sec incursions next.


There is no such thing as risk free incursions so nuthin to be axed
Unless II guess the ships I've see that died this week are figments o my imagination.
Can't wait for the dumb arse Goon troll to this post Andski you really need to polish up on your lies they are too easily shown for what are are: BS
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I always laugh at the tears from Null Secc'ers such as your self that blame everything on Incursions!
Be funny if Moon goo started comming out o the next Incursion that replaces the Sansha Incursion... like an incursion of drones that poop moon goo to really **** off the Null Sec alliance lords whom find their Monopoly challenged. The attempted interdictions would be epic I guess since you won't be able to hot drop
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-03-23 20:14:37 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
Axe risk-free high-sec incursions next.


There is no such thing as risk free incursions so nuthin to be axed
Unless II guess the ships I've see that died this week are figments o my imagination.
Can't wait for the dumb arse Goon troll to this post Andski you really need to polish up on your lies they are too ealisy shown for what are are: BS


you sure ate a lot of those sweet, sweet lead paint chips

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-03-23 20:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Pubbie incursions are literally WoW+Gearscore

greatest example of all time. Kinda makes me want to barf though.

Hm, what;s this Gearscore. Sounds like some kind of internet famous thing. Grinding mmo?


NotSureIfSerious.jpg

Ok, well, assuming you are:

Gearscore is a specific plugin for WOW, although it has come to mean any generic type of plugin that does a specific thing. It gives your gear a certain number of points based on various criteria. This sounds like an ok thing in practice, as it allows you to quickly eval new gear vs your current gear, right?

Well, yes and no. The problem is, the plugin also allows you to evaluate someone else's total gearscore (as in, the score of all their gear) at a single glance.

This effectively turned Gearscore into a giant e-peen meter. Little braindead pubbies would refuse to play with people without a certain gearscore, and character skill and attitude and really anything didn't matter. You had to grind gearscore points and only gearscore points, it is literally the only thing that matters. At the same time, character talent specialization was redirected to fit only 1 or 2 "real" templates, and if you didn't have Gearscore X and Class Y with Template Z or W, well, "GTFO and L2Play Noob."

You see the same attitude in Incursions. You have to have skills X Y and Z at V, skills R, W and Theta at at least 4, and you have to be in one of 3-4 approved ships in 1 (UND EXACTLY WON) fit, or don't even bother. You're not neckbeard approved and should "GTFO and L2Play Noob."
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#46 - 2012-03-23 20:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Andski wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
Axe risk-free high-sec incursions next.


There is no such thing as risk free incursions so nuthin to be axed
Unless II guess the ships I've see that died this week are figments o my imagination.
Can't wait for the dumb arse Goon troll to this post Andski you really need to polish up on your lies they are too ealisy shown for what are are: BS


you sure ate a lot of those sweet, sweet lead paint chips



lol that is a canned response I've seen you use it before you need some new lines
I guess all you have is canned responses allowed by your goonie lords?
i so I luv the taste of your tears http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM&feature=player_embedded
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-03-23 20:18:04 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
Axe risk-free high-sec incursions next.


There is no such thing as risk free incursions so nuthin to be axed
Unless II guess the ships I've see that died this week are figments o my imagination.
Can't wait for the dumb arse Goon troll to this post Andski you really need to polish up on your lies they are too ealisy shown for what are are: BS


you sure ate a lot of those sweet, sweet lead paint chips



lol that is a canned response I've seen you use it before you need some new lines


not much else to say to the mentally challenged vOv

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Zircon Dasher
#48 - 2012-03-23 20:20:20 UTC
Vince Snetterton wrote:
The ice interdiction you and your bunch perpetrated (and still are) was for 2 reasons:

1. To mess with the income of high sec players.
2. By removing the high sec competition, thereby increasing ice product prices, your own null sec botters made significantly more ISK.


This kind of behavior should be encouraged across all system securities, and across all the different game content lines.

Competition and conflict are the fuel for player supplied game content.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-03-23 20:22:41 UTC
Andski wrote:
Vince Snetterton wrote:
Xython wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
You are so easily impressed. That fact has been known for years. I am more impressed by the fact most bots are in highsec.


This isn't a surprise at all. You think all those ice miners running 20+ accounts are actually at keyboard, alt tabbing like mad? Of course not.

That's why we Goons decided to do the Ice Interdiction. The entirety of EVE's economy is hedging on a bunch of botters, players who don't like the game enough to actually be bothered to play it.


You are a liar, just the like the rest of your cohorts.

The ice interdiction you and your bunch perpetrated (and still are) was for 2 reasons:

1. To mess with the income of high sec players.
2. By removing the high sec competition, thereby increasing ice product prices, your own null sec botters made significantly more ISK.


you're an idiot if you think anybody mines ice in nullsec


Well, to be fair, there was that one idiot corp, we burned a spy to bomb them and ruin their day. What was their name again?
Zircon Dasher
#50 - 2012-03-23 20:30:11 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:
Axe risk-free high-sec incursions next.


There is no such thing as risk free incursions so nuthin to be axed
Unless II guess the ships I've see that died this week are figments o my imagination.
Can't wait for the dumb arse Goon troll to this post Andski you really need to polish up on your lies they are too easily shown for what are are: BS
==========================
I always laugh at the tears from Null Secc'ers such as your self that blame everything on Incursions!
Be funny if Moon goo started comming out o the next Incursion that replaces the Sansha Incursion... like an incursion of drones that poop moon goo to really **** off the Null Sec alliance lords whom find their Monopoly challenged. The attempted interdictions would be epic I guess since you won't be able to hot drop


Outside of ignorance/afk there is no real risk from NPC's

In EVE the only real risk is supplied by other players.

So if any activity is risk-free then players can only blame themselves for making it that way.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#51 - 2012-03-23 20:30:28 UTC
Andski wrote:

you're an idiot if you think anybody mines ice in nullsec


ha I know I know for a fact its done in lo sec & have been offered to join a corp that does it . Only problem is I'm currently having fun in Incursions right now or I'd be in that corp. Andski if its done in lo why isn't it being done at all in NULL? or have I caught you again in another lie? Goons lie OMG can it be ?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#52 - 2012-03-23 20:32:41 UTC
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Outside of ignorance/afk there is no real risk from NPC's

In EVE the only real risk is supplied by other players.

So if any activity is risk-free then players can only blame themselves for making it that way.


I've seen ships die throughout the week in Incursions so there is risk. Your definition of real is absurd
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-03-23 20:33:11 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Andski wrote:

you're an idiot if you think anybody mines ice in nullsec


ha I know I know for a fact its done in lo sec & have been offered to join a corp that does it . Only problem is I'm currently having fun in Incursions right now or I'd be in that corp. Andski if its done in lo why isn't it being done at all in NULL? or have I caught you again in another lie? Goons lie OMG can it be ?


lowsec is not nullsec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-03-23 20:33:45 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Outside of ignorance/afk there is no real risk from NPC's

In EVE the only real risk is supplied by other players.

So if any activity is risk-free then players can only blame themselves for making it that way.


I've seen ships die throughout the week in Incursions so there is risk. Your definition of real is absurd


guys guys incursions are super risky *flies a 10bn faction BS*

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
captain kikaz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-03-23 20:38:15 UTC
fr all the butthurt people raging about none of these changes coming until 2013. It was stated at the beginnings of the key notes that all the changes will be happening within the next year.
So yeah you might have to wait until early next year to get the new changes but as long as they are delivered within that timescale you have zero to ***** about.go get a coke have a smile and stfu
Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-03-23 21:00:02 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Yet another reason to thank The Mittani and CSM 6.


Bullshit. More like another reason to thank the thousands of players who did what needed to be done to get CCP to wake up from Micro-transaction Dreamland. We unsubbed to hurt the only thing CCP cared about at the time; their wallet. But you keep drinking that Kool-Aid and spreading lies.
Zircon Dasher
#57 - 2012-03-23 21:03:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Zircon Dasher
DarthNefarius wrote:
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Outside of ignorance/afk there is no real risk from NPC's

In EVE the only real risk is supplied by other players.

So if any activity is risk-free then players can only blame themselves for making it that way.


I've seen ships die throughout the week in Incursions so there is risk. Your definition of real is absurd


I never said that ships do not die.

All risk from NPC can be mitigated by knowledge + being at the keyboard.
If there is a way to mitigate all risk from NPC then risk can only come about via players.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Vince Snetterton
#58 - 2012-03-23 21:04:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Vince Snetterton
Zircon Dasher wrote:
Vince Snetterton wrote:
The ice interdiction you and your bunch perpetrated (and still are) was for 2 reasons:

1. To mess with the income of high sec players.
2. By removing the high sec competition, thereby increasing ice product prices, your own null sec botters made significantly more ISK.


This kind of behavior should be encouraged across all system securities, and across all the different game content lines.

Competition and conflict are the fuel for player supplied game content.


I have no problem with goons doing this for economic gain.
And I agree, driving your enemies before you, hearing the lamentations of their women, while making a healthy profit off of their misery is what Eve is all about.

But goon lie about their reasons for doing this.
They may actually gain some respect if they said, "Yeah, we do it for the money", instead of "We are the champions of righteousness in Eve, and will destroy the evil-doer botters since CCP can't".

I can't stand hypocrisy, and that hypocrisy is the raison d'etre of goons.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2012-03-23 21:12:11 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Yet another reason to thank The Mittani and CSM 6.


Bullshit. More like another reason to thank the thousands of players who did what needed to be done to get CCP to wake up from Micro-transaction Dreamland. We unsubbed to hurt the only thing CCP cared about at the time; their wallet. But you keep drinking that Kool-Aid and spreading lies.


Oh wow...you're pretty much wrong about everything.

CCP didn't even realize how broken tech moons are until Mittens explained it to them. If they are finally going to do something to correct the imbalance it's a direct result of CSM 6 and they should be recognized for it.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#60 - 2012-03-23 21:15:08 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Yet another reason to thank The Mittani and CSM 6.


Bullshit. More like another reason to thank the thousands of players who did what needed to be done to get CCP to wake up from Micro-transaction Dreamland. We unsubbed to hurt the only thing CCP cared about at the time; their wallet. But you keep drinking that Kool-Aid and spreading lies.


Oh wow...you're pretty much wrong about everything.

CCP didn't even realize how broken tech moons are until Mittens explained it to them. If they are finally going to do something to correct the imbalance it's a direct result of CSM 6 and they should be recognized for it.


CSM6 was an alright CSM, but CCP has known about this in detail for ages.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.