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please dont lock us out of enemy systems there are enough alts and spys as it is to get stuff done.

FW will become interesting if some conditions are met:

1. There must be something to gain from system control, highsec systems should be affected
2. There is competittion between militias and between militias and the general public over resources
3. Pirate militias should be added to FW; their alignment should not be decided a priori so that their players can decide who to fight against and who to help.

Moreover players should be given more decisional power over politics; possibly CCP could hire someone to manage every faction to make FW like a persistent live event.

I don't even know what factional warfare is.
All I know is that eveonline lacks consensual PVP or at least a place where you could go and have PVP for sure, and not camp a gate or wait for something to happen.

I participated in FW for about a month.

I hoped it would be more into Lore then just as it is now. I would like to see pilots getting boni to ships of the faction they are fighting for when they are in one of the fw-systems. I would like to see Amarr-Militia-Pilots flying Amarr hulls against Minmatar in their hulls

• First in line is to provide proper consequences by denying docking access to stations located in enemy space and allowing players to upgrade their captured solar systems by spending FW LPs into the Control Bunker.


Awesome do this! Don't listen to the haters. This is going to make a huge difference in giving meaning to system control and into organically creating a front line in the battlefield with out forcing another mechanic into the system.

Cyno-Jammer, I don't see a way this won't be Meta-gamed and add grief. If it is implemented it should be done for the Highest LP investment and for only very limited times, 30 minutes or less.


• We then discussed a general decrease to passive Datacore gains, as we want to add Datacore offers in the FW LP stores.

I will be collecting my data-cores soon.

If you remove the passive part of the current mechanic then there should be an optional respec for those of us who only trained those skills for the passive income. If you only change the balance of the passive income then I don't think I should get a refund.

• After that, we approached the concept of War Zone Control, giving long term impact to this feature by adjusting Factional Warfare LP store prices depending on how well your side is doing in the war.


This absolutely should work on a scale of diminishing returns.

I also think that as your side loses more and more systems the NPC's in your remaining system should be more active as they become more concentrated in their defense. And you should never be able to run missions in a system your faction controls.

• We also discussed cosmetic changes, like removing Occupancy and causing Factional Warfare to affect Sovereignty instead, or renaming Control Bunkers to Infrastructure Hubs for consistency reasons with null-security space.

This change is just elegant and makes sense. Also would be nice to not to have to bring target painters to shot a structure.

• We approached the subject of Factional Warfare complexes, and how they should be improved by giving NPCs PvP like attributes while making sure they are consistent for each faction. We also brought forward the idea of giving LPs for capturing such complexes, that would be stolen from the enemy Infrastructure Hub in the system.

Like these ideas.

In terms of LP rewards, would like to see it balanced so that PvP gives the most LP, then capturing plexes, and lastly mission running.

• We talked about PvP kills, and how to make them more rewarding in Factional Warfare by giving LPs as a proportional value of the ship lost, plus its modules and cargo.

This should be balanced dynamically tied to the conversion value of LP on the market and in such a way as PvP offers the best way in Faction Warfare to earn LP.

• Lack of visibility is also a problem we would like to tackle, by improving the Factional Warfare Militia pages, creating proper leaderboards for players to compare themselves from, and improving system notifications.

I think the idea behind initially hiding the real values of what it takes in victory points to make a system vulnerable had some merit, at this point these factors should be made completely transparent. This will have the effect of letting the militias know where it is easiest to find fights. And with the added consequences should balance itself. As in knowing whats going on and where fighting is happening will have more meaning and inform player decisions.

• The EVE-DUST link was also brought forward, as we discussed possibilities to have both EVE complexes and DUST matches affect a Factional Warfare solar system status.

I think to start Dust should only effect how fast a system is taken, but after a while it could be made a percentage of what is necessary to take a system, never to exceed 50%.

In the far future you could anchor all the IHUBs on the first planet in a system or a Dust fightable asteroid near the sun, where they could then even help shoot it.


I think system swapping happens way to fast now. Should happen over the course of 2-7 days. Also there should be a lag of 30 minutes to a couple hours once a system becomes vulnerable before you are able to shot the IHUB. Long enough that those online can muster some defense, but not enough to encourage 0.0 blob warfare.

When is the devblog coming? When with this be on Singularity? And when are we likely to start to see these changes?

Glad to see meaningful changes happening. Keep up the "good" work! ( will take away the quotes if it works)

Yes, Glad it is finally being acknowledged as being incomplete......

As long as the Reward is equal or greater to the sacrifice of being in FW (as well as cannont be farmed), we should have a win, win.

If you can't justify being in FW....Then your job is still not done....

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If you can't find consensual PVP you're in the wrong corp/alliance and or wrong part of space.

Hi,

There was a question asked during this fanfest how FW can affect empire space in high sec,

especially towards capsuleer pilots that are flying in said empire space (hisec) of course.


My thought was why not give FW players the ability to construct Super jump gates that instead of jumping one system,

CAN JUMP ONE REGION

those that are involved in FW or capsuleers who show they are sympathetic toward a certain faction can use them.



Reasons why Super gates should be made:

- science & industry; capsuleers have acces to technology normal npc's just don't have.
In the latest eve book concord even doesn't like the use of tech 3 in their supervised space because of its origins are suspect.

It will add a nice sink where LP's, isk and materials can be invested for convenience purposes and the building sites can be another great source for battlegrounds.

Empires want to get an edge on other empires, and if they can deny they are themselves involved in the constructing of these supergates by hiding behind their militia, their agenda can still be served.

- logistics; moving armies across a battlefield is a logistical nightmare.

With the use of railroads and autobahns (germany) 20th centaury goverments had a better way to move their armies internallyacross their space and giving them a strategic edge.

Capsuleers that aren't active in FW can still be sympathetic to the cause by either contributing into the building pot (its a massive enterprise) or by increasing their faction status above a certain level or plenty of other ways that might increase the access through role playing opportunities or what not.

- People might say this convenience will be an end towards time sink, by reducing travelling time somewhat.
(mind the placement of one Super gate per region only)

But you have to remember how this game is setup, its not a F2P game where time sinks are important to keep you playing so the company has more time to sell you stuff.


Thank you CCP for EveTV and going in the right direction again.

What staks? A whole month of passive income on my one toon with all skills at 4 is about 60m isk. I could make more than that in about 2 or 3 lvl 4 missions..

If I took all skils to 5 (another 75 days) I would be making about 82m per toon which I could make in about 3 or 4 lvl 4 missions.

Lets face it - datacores was a POOR substitute for those who really invested in these skills back in the T2 Lottery days. Removing them now would be an insult to injury.

I am a new player. I decided to go down the datacore road for passive income. Does this mean I should stop? And, if so, thanks for nothing CCP, you've ruined my first few weeks. I thought the goal was to keep paying accounts these days?