EVE General Discussion

A can labelled "free stuff" today will still get you a popup that says taking from the can could get you shot. Even if you *do* take from the can, you lose one ship and learn your lesson. Most players who "get" Eve and will stick around for an length of time won't be too upset at losing one ship, they'll just remember "take from yellow can, get shot" and use one of the other ships they got from the tutorials.

When I started Eve, I came along with four friends. They've all quit. Two left because they got tired of our corp being at war with noob-bashing corps as described in the post above. One left because of real life, and one got bored.

Here's the problem: all the proposed changes I've seen won't stop a 4-year-old station game pro from wardeccing a small corp full of noobs. THAT is where a lot of the rage quits are coming from. More than that, though, I think Eve loses a lot of new players because of its notorious learning curve, and the lack of good documentation from CCP.

Your posts and those of your mindset are in defense of keeping broken **** in game that makes it easier for your 'highsec pvp' which is a lulz-worthy and a bad justification for griefing noobs.


Agreed, these are the biggest problems. So your saying that CCP is terrible for taking the first step by fixing can flipping? Wut?

EDIT: I derped some herps

And you're trying to keep disguise your zest for newbie slaughter as if you were some humble crusader just introducing everyone to the realities of eve-online.

Just as being in high-sec should carry risks like the possibility of being ganked or wardecced, performing these actions should have risk as well. Willy-nilly wardec jizzing all over every carebear you see with tons of free loot and kills for you is easymode and maybe you should GB2WOW.

You should stop equating the actions of a select few to the characteristics of a great many. It makes you look like a bigot.

Can baiting newbies in starter systems is a bannable offence.

If you are new to the game and get canbaited in a starter system you petition it and the baiters will leave the game faster than those they wish to grief.

When I was in Red Horizon Inc we got wardecced by a 130+ man socalled merc alliance.
We were mainly a mission running and industrial corporation at that time and we had about 4 or 5 people in corp with previous PvP experience.
The 24 hour window till combat could start gave us the time to have a lot of ships ready at various places for members who wanted to fight.
We ended up with 12 of us against this merc alliance.

It was the most fun week I ever had in EVE.

We had someone lose a ship he would be back in a new ship fitted and all within minutes.
They lost someone and there was scrounging going on to get back into the fight.
(at some point we even gave some of them, not the trolls, a ship when they lost one so we could keep on having fun.)

The alliance dropped their wardec after a week because the carebears were having more fun than their members.

Carebear corp still exsists and the merc alliance disbanded.

We still are in contact with several former merc members and at times we fly together or assist if we feel like it.

…which has almost nothing to do with highsec wargare. The largest reson by far that people quit according to CCP is that they can't figure out where to go and what to do — most notably, ey drop out because they fail to get into a corp quickly enough.

So if you want to bark up trees, pick another one?

Here is my early on war story. A long long time ago I joined one of the founding corps of Stain Alliance. As a result I was at war with Celestial Apocalypse (that should ring a bell with the old timers). Those folks deemed it funny to sit right next to Agil 200km off the gate and snipe the hell out of everybody. Me clever cooky got a Blackbird with sebos and damps (that was before CCP decided to nerf damps out of the game) and stopped those 2 Apocs from having fun. We didn't kill them often but we didn't really lose anything to them either.

So yes, in EVE we can drive bad players out of the game. That's what you get from a competitive game. If players quit the game because they are to stupid to drop back into NPC corp or hide in a WH I'm fine with that.

You declare wars on corps not players. If you don't even understand that EVE is not for you.