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Overheating Problem on Vid Card

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#21 - 2012-03-17 03:08:12 UTC
Zora'e wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Set "Present Interval" to 1, 2 or 3. Confirm through the FPS monitor (Ctrl+F). Ideally, follow v-sync (60fps) or if its still too hot, drop to 30fps .. or even 20fps in the most extreme cases (very useful for older cards). EVE isn't an FPS, the framerate loss is cosmetics. The client/server responses still ticks at 1Hz regardless of framerate.


Rofl.. I had it set for interval Immediate.. my FPS was over 200. Dropped it down to Interval 1 (60fps - Vsync) and my temps dropped an additional 14c immediately. Down to 54c and stable now. I can live with that. Thanks for reminding me of the Interval option. I'd forgotten all about that as well.


Getting a liquid cooling rig for your CPU ($80) will also substantially lower your internal case temps, especially once your ambient hits real summer temps. This will substantially keep your GPU temp down. It often gets up to 110-115F (45C) where I live in the summer and with the liquid cooler I can still leave the case cover on.

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#22 - 2012-03-17 18:51:32 UTC
You could always try the mineral oil cooling method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJdUhtD1zns&feature=related
bit slimy but would help a little with heating possibly alot of help with dust & getkos
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-03-18 15:28:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Zora'e wrote:
Morganta wrote:
yeah, worst case use a small circular fan blowing into the side of the case,

but its a double edged sword in your location, open case = more dust and debris to gunk up the heatsync as well as the occasional stray coconut crab chewing up your wiring Shocked



LOL it's more likely to be one of the many Gecko's we have running around here. That's what did for my last Power Supply. Baby gecko somehow managed to crawl into the PS and became.. well... crispy.



You should close your case. You can still achieve proper cooling without leaving it open to the elements and still keep the majority of dust out of it. All you need to do is establish good airflow within the case. Two 120mm fans, one pulling air in, one pulling air out should do it. You can make a filter for the fan pulling air in. I filter my incoming fan and it does a fair job doing it. What I do is buy the cheapest AC filter out there, cut it so shape of the fan and mount it on a box that I've cut and folded to size that fits around the fan. Wa-la, a easily removable filter that I can take outside that I can clean easily with compressed air. It won't keep all the dust out. But I find that it does take much longer for dust to build up and what does make it in is very small particulates not dust bunnies. To keep all the dust out you'd need better filter material which would drastically impede airflow.

BTW, volcanic dust is conductive. Don't know if this is really a problem for you.

The two fans are positioned so: Fan A is the incoming air fan. It's on the left panel and directly over the CPU and partially over the GPU. That way those two components get the coolest air first. Fan B is outgoing air and is mounted on the front where you'd generally mount CD's. It takes up 3 5.25 slots. You can create your own mounts for it using slot covers or you can buy such mounts online. Then I use manual fan speed controls to keep them quiet. They're always on the lowest speeds.

If your case doesn't have such a panel opening for 120mm(or larger if you want bigger fans), a jig saw works well to cut a circle opening for the fan. Sand down the rough edges and you're golden.

Don't ban me, bro!

adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#24 - 2012-03-18 15:39:24 UTC
lulz, taking the side off just screws up your air flow.

If your case has no side intake fans... get a new case.

a gt4xx can run 105C its a gf108 IIRC,

water cooling for a gt4xx LOL WUT.

Also to the nub who called a heatSINK a heatsync LOL please follow nothing that poster said lol.



tldr
gf 108 chip, max temp 105c
Side of case off = screw up airflow, put fan, get new case (nzxt phantoms nice), put side on.
junk card dont waste money on water etc.

And runing over 60fps is ******** unless your screen is running over 60hz.
Ikoras
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-03-18 15:58:01 UTC
Your temps are perfectly fine

IF you are worried switch to liquid. It's actually better giving that you live in a tropical environment. I would be more concerned with moisture from the humidity though instead of the heat. Get some desiccant packs to throw in the bottom of the case.

Having the case wide open might seem like a good idea however, its probably the absolute worst thing you could do. Air flow actually becomes stagnate and it opens up tons of other problems such as static, higher amounts of dust, increased moisture, and the possibility of little creatures getting hungry/curious.
Zora'e
#26 - 2012-03-20 03:02:50 UTC
I have my eyes on a case with really good airflow. My current case suffers from a severe lack of airflow due in no small part to it being older than dirt. I have 2 80mm fans on the back and I cut a hole in the side of the case to add another 120mm fan but even with that, the case can't pull enough air out to keep things cool.

The case I have my eyes on will fix my cooling issues when I get it though

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455022&CatId=1842

But... I have Car and House Insurance coming up next month as well as a few other minor money eaters so it's gonna have to wait until May or at latest June. In the meantime... I do what I can with what I got.

Thanks for the Information and Advice. When I start building my new system I will be going with liquid cooling so that should really help as well.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-03-20 03:20:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
TigerDirect is Compusa. You can be sure, whatever they're selling you on a good deal is crap. If it's not on sale, you should be fine.

Don't ban me, bro!

Rath Kelbore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-03-20 04:22:56 UTC
Zora'e wrote:
Couldn't figure out where else to put this, and I need some advice.

I live in a Hot Climate (Maui, Hawaii) and we don't have an AC Unit so I am kinda stuck running hot as it is, but I'd like some advice on ways to help reduce my Vid Cards temps (pushing 80c). I've taken it out and cleaned off the vanes so no dust build up. Case is wide open on both sides. But it still pushes 80c. It's an Nvidia GT430 and I do plan on replacing it in the near future but even so.. in the mean time I have to figure some way to keep the temps down on the card. Ambient temps in my home are usually between 85f and 90f and that is with all the windows and doors open, and every fan in the house running.

Pretty much at my wits end. So, advice, trolls and LOL's at my old vid card are welcome.

~Zora'e


To be honest 80c isn't all that bad. Stating the obvious, a different/better case with bigger/better fans could help, unless you have the best setup already. If that's not an option, do you have any software installed to allow you to control the fan speed? The factory settings on every nvidia card i've owned allows it to get hot. I use evga precision on my current comp, works for me.

Hope that helps.

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Resiin
Juxtaposition Investments
#29 - 2012-03-20 13:59:47 UTC
adam smash wrote:






Side of case off = screw up airflow, put fan, get new case (nzxt phantoms nice), put side on.



This. Taking the sides of the case of is bad. I too used to think it would improve my temperatures, but it's bad in the long run, messes up a balanced airflow.
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#30 - 2012-03-20 14:24:59 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Zora'e wrote:
Morganta wrote:
yeah, worst case use a small circular fan blowing into the side of the case,

but its a double edged sword in your location, open case = more dust and debris to gunk up the heatsync as well as the occasional stray coconut crab chewing up your wiring Shocked



LOL it's more likely to be one of the many Gecko's we have running around here. That's what did for my last Power Supply. Baby gecko somehow managed to crawl into the PS and became.. well... crispy.


"you can save up to 15% off of your car insurance by switching to geiZZZZZZZZTTTTT....."


lol, 10

I'm an American, English is my second language...

Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#31 - 2012-03-20 15:51:17 UTC
This is a very troublesome problem indeed. Perhaps you would like to switch with me in New Jersey, and I'll take on your burdens in frightful Maui.

Seriously, 80C isn't too much to worry about for a GPU. There are a couple options that aren't too expensive. One is to replace the thermal compound on your current card with a better aftermarket product like Arctic Cooling MX-4, Tuniq TX-4, or Noctua NT-H1. Arctic Silver is also an option however it is slightly electrically conductive so you have to be careful. You can see anywhere between a 1-8 C drop using different compound. Another option is looking into an aftermarket air cooler, which is a much cheaper alternative (and easier to install) than watercooling solutions.

In the future, you should consider looking into some of the newer AMD models that are coming out, they are very energy efficient and only hit around 60-70C under load. If the leaked Nvidia specs are any indication, the next gen isn't going to be quite as energy efficient (more power draw generally = more heat).

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#32 - 2012-03-20 16:01:52 UTC
Have you trained up in Thermodynamics?

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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#33 - 2012-03-20 16:21:42 UTC
Zora'e wrote:
Heh, yeah I just got a new monitor a cpl weeks ago ( Samsung SyncMaster SA300 1920 x 1080 ) that is larger than my old LCD with significantly better color and resolution. Now that I think about it, I switched interval to immediate when I got it and flipped the graphics quality to max to see how EVE looked on a decent monitor. Forgot to switch it back and.... well now I'm embarrassed. LOL. Roll

Now that you have that problem solved, why are you indoors playing EVE while living in Maui? Is it raining? Big smile
Savage Creampuff
Vivid Entertainment Group
#34 - 2012-03-20 16:35:20 UTC
i had some overheating problems a while back on a gtx 260. redoing the thermal paste and installing evga precision made a world of difference. can now run 16 clients maxing out at 72c. not that i ever do of course. that would just be wrong.
Zora'e
#35 - 2012-03-23 02:58:29 UTC
Palovana wrote:
Zora'e wrote:
Heh, yeah I just got a new monitor a cpl weeks ago ( Samsung SyncMaster SA300 1920 x 1080 ) that is larger than my old LCD with significantly better color and resolution. Now that I think about it, I switched interval to immediate when I got it and flipped the graphics quality to max to see how EVE looked on a decent monitor. Forgot to switch it back and.... well now I'm embarrassed. LOL. Roll

Now that you have that problem solved, why are you indoors playing EVE while living in Maui? Is it raining? Big smile


Nope. I'm allergic to tourists.

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Adunh Slavy
#36 - 2012-03-23 03:01:02 UTC
Open both sides? Get a box fan from walmart or someplace, $10. Stick it right next to the computer.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

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