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supercap sales system change proposal

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RatBoy Deblade
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-21 12:57:40 UTC
Greetings all,

I have suffered thru the purchase of 2 supers and the sale of 1 of them. While chribba is a good guy, easy to work with and efficient in what he does (ive heard similar feedback about darknesss also although ive never done business him), its still a pain in the butt to buy and sell a super.

Therefore, I've had an idea. my proposal (and yes its over simplified) is as follows:

1. so and so decides to sell their super.

2. they go to the eve online website under acct management and click the new button (which you devs would have to create lol) and it copies the exact fit of the super into their website. (there they choose option 1 : copy fit)

3. the seller is then free to advertise their super and post a link to their fit via the website in the forums.

4. once a purchase is agreed upon, the buyer posts their isk into the system via acct management button.

5. the seller then clicks the same button in acct management. (option 2 this time) . this would take the seller to a station system that is locked down and has NO SERVICES. (you cannot get out of the ship, you cannot change your fit, you cannot do anything at all to your ship).
a. to prevent exploits:
1. you could not do this if you were agressed, in a bubble, bla bla bla you get the idea.
2. also you would not be able to do this more than once every 3 months or so
3. and your ship would not be able to stay docked more than 60 minutes. (this should be plenty of time since the isk is already in escrow)

6. once the new person gets their new ship, they have 48 hours to leave. once again, the same station rules would apply. they would not be able to alter the ship in any way. (if they fail to undock in the alotted time, the system would boot them into a random low sec system)

7 once the buyer decides to undock, they can choose ANY LOW SEC SYSTEM to go to.


feedback is appreciated. flame it....add to it....u get the idea.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-03-21 13:01:46 UTC
Supers can dock now!?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2012-03-21 13:05:35 UTC
You're trying to remove the trust factor in transferring a super and make it 'safer' to do so. Why is such a thing needed in Eve? Transferring a super from one person to another isn't supposed to be an easy thing to do and business deals in Eve are never set up to protect either party, scamming is often encouraged. I don't really see this idea as having any merit, since it attempts to dumb down Eve and make it easier and safer to do something that shouldn't be easy or safe to begin with.
RatBoy Deblade
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-03-21 13:11:31 UTC
mxzf wrote:
You're trying to remove the trust factor in transferring a super and make it 'safer' to do so. Why is such a thing needed in Eve? Transferring a super from one person to another isn't supposed to be an easy thing to do and business deals in Eve are never set up to protect either party, scamming is often encouraged. I don't really see this idea as having any merit, since it attempts to dumb down Eve and make it easier and safer to do something that shouldn't be easy or safe to begin with.



i see your point and its valid. however, supers are the only thing that cannot be traded or contracted... every other item has a safe method

edited for spelling
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#5 - 2012-03-21 13:36:33 UTC
RatBoy Deblade wrote:
mxzf wrote:
You're trying to remove the trust factor in transferring a super and make it 'safer' to do so. Why is such a thing needed in Eve? Transferring a super from one person to another isn't supposed to be an easy thing to do and business deals in Eve are never set up to protect either party, scamming is often encouraged. I don't really see this idea as having any merit, since it attempts to dumb down Eve and make it easier and safer to do something that shouldn't be easy or safe to begin with.

i see your point and its valid. however, supers are the only thing that cannot be traded or contracted... every other item has a safe method

edited for spelling


There are many other things that are unique to supers too though, for instance:
Require sov to be built
Immune to EWAR
Cannot be docked
~15-40x as expensive as any other ship in the game
And some more that I'm blanking on right now.

Why should the safety of trading them be changed now? Is there any reason for it other than "I don't feel like dealing with/paying a third party and am incapable of trusting the other party"?
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#6 - 2012-03-22 05:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
mxzf wrote:
I don't really see this idea as having any merit, since it attempts to dumb down Eve and make it easier and safer to do something that shouldn't be easy or safe to begin with.


Speaking of things that shouldn't be easy or safer to do.....

Attacking super capitals with frigates and other equally cheap and small sub caps, now much easier thanx to goonswarm lobbying and CCP nerfing them.

You also forgot to mention:

60 Bil isk hulls only able to target 3 sub caps (coming soon)....
60 Bil isk ship incapable or nigh incapable of hitting sub caps with its guns or party piece (coming soon)....
60 Bil isk ship being uber vulnerable to said ships due to the anti-logoffski nerf and the new aggression mechanics.....
60 bil isk ship taking months to build and require a crapton of infrastructure in order to be assembled...
60 Bil isk ship that cannot be used solo or risk getting wtfowned..
60 Bil isk ship that shows up on the overview with a "look at me, warp here for pew pew " call sign for all to see.
The 60 Bil isk pricetag itself....

I think given those facets, docking to allow trading/contracting/sales and purchases is deserved.

But I think said docking should only be possible on a super capital sized outpost with a specialized new service/module that adds a super capital hanger/docking ring to said station.

This would imply that supers would only be able to dock in 0.0 space and not on any low sec station unless CCP upgrade their specs...

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#7 - 2012-03-22 10:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: FluffyDice
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Alagos Illat
Exemplary Orphans
#8 - 2012-03-22 10:17:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Alagos Illat
FluffyDice wrote:
I hear a better idea is adoption.


trolololol

also buying a super with Rl cash isn't really too hard is it? just asking the expert.
FluffyDice
Kronos Research
#9 - 2012-03-22 10:19:42 UTC  |  Edited by: FluffyDice
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