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New wardec system on Sisi

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#201 - 2012-03-21 13:41:17 UTC
Ursula LeGuinn wrote:
Corporations and alliances may declare wars for a nominal fee. Consensus with the defenders is not required, and these war declarations may not be avoided except by dissolution of the defenders' organization. The aggressors may attack their selected targets at will.

However, CONCORD won't protect the aggressors for the duration of the war — not only from the defenders, but from anyone at all. In other words, a random neutral could attack the aggressors without fear of CONCORD intervention. There will be no obvious sign (on the overview, etc.) of the aggressors' lack of CONCORD protection; it's up to the defenders to spread the word, call for help, or whatever.

Problem solved. CCP, you're welcome — I'll be mailing my résumé (spritz of cologne in the envelope, I'm classy) along with some other amazing game ideas.


This is actually really, really good.

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#202 - 2012-03-21 14:28:19 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
I don't troll, I would never do that!!!!


5/10, could have been better if you added a little something, something.

- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#203 - 2012-03-21 14:32:41 UTC
Zagdul wrote:

Lets all band together and shoot a monument over a mechanic on the test server.



Name the monument and I'l be there. Please make it in null or low so we can do it in dreads.
CCP Tuxford
C C P
C C P Alliance
#204 - 2012-03-21 14:34:29 UTC
Cryten Jones wrote:
CCP Tuxford wrote:
This thread needs more safety dance



Is that a reference to something awesome that was never recaptured by it's creators or just a general smile cookie :-)


Its just a song I've got stuck in my head. By some weird coincidence it's stuck in Paradox's head as well. It might have something to do with me calling him over and saying "safety dance"

https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/CCP%20Tuxford/StatusUpdates
Liu Ellens
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#205 - 2012-03-21 14:39:32 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:

Its just a song I've got stuck in my head.

I prefer the literal versionP
(Also, translation mechanic may be broken)

Well, they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there for shure.
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#206 - 2012-03-21 14:42:56 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Maybe now certain corporations will stop hugging Jita undock...


That'd be a start to getting things like these not implemented.. Glad I'm not a higsec player like that..
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#207 - 2012-03-21 15:01:59 UTC
CCP Tuxford wrote:
This thread needs more safety dance


" ... We can go when we want to
The night is young and so am I
And we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet
And surprise 'em with the victory cry .....

So is Inferno going to be about war dec'ing the NEX store shopping or warfare like strike a pose?Shocked



[;)
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#208 - 2012-03-21 15:40:03 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
I don't troll, I would never do that!!!!
This haiku was pretty much written about you:

I would get more done
If I didn't spend my time
Trolling the forums

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Neo Agricola
Gallente Federation
#209 - 2012-03-21 15:48:37 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
I don't troll, I would never do that!!!!
This haiku was pretty much written about you:

I would get more done
If I didn't spend my time
Trolling the forums

I like...

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highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#210 - 2012-03-21 16:41:23 UTC  |  Edited by: highonpop
The carebears will rejoice. Although this is EVE. EVE IS HARD! It says that when you sign up.


The war dec mechanics are just fine as they are. IRL, when one country decides to go to war, do they ask the other countries permission to invade? NO!


Having war decs as they are now adds to the dynamic of "you are never really safe" in eve.


CHEERS TO THE FURTHER DUMBING DOWN OF EVE SO WOW PLAYERS WILL MOVE OVER TO EVE AND TURN IT INTO WOW!!!! YES!!!! THANK YOU!!!!





wtf....


War decs are an essential part of EVE. War is an essential part of life. LIKE THE EVE TRAILER SAYS "All Life is Forged From Hell"... Making war decs HAVE TO BE agreed upon by both parties is further proof that CCP is catering to new players that find the harsh pvp of EVE too much to bear. I love EVE to death. It has killed all other MMO's for me.... But CCP continues down this dumbing-down of EVE, I fear it may end up being 'just another MMO'

FC, what do?
Rashmika Clavain
Revelation Space
#211 - 2012-03-21 16:48:12 UTC
highonpop wrote:

Stuff™


I love it when people read the first post of a thread and then /emo all over the place without first bothering to read any of the subsequent posts Lol
Liu Ellens
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#212 - 2012-03-21 16:57:53 UTC
...like the locals say: this thread keeps on delivering Lol

Well, they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there for shure.
simukz
#213 - 2012-03-25 06:13:09 UTC
cant find a post for discussion of the FanFest presentation about war decs... so i'll post it here...

wardeck cost multiplier
  • # attackers / # defenders

    • mercs
  • could see active wars
  • offer to defend a corp
  • would get 50% of the declaration cost or what make sense

    • scenario:
  • 5 (active) account corp is declared war upon by 20 (active) account corp.
  • war declaration cost is 90 mil ISK = (20 mil + .5 * 5) * 4
  • The defenders are few casual players and don't have high income and can't afford to hire mercs. A merc corp finds this war declaration and offers a defending corp to be helped with or without additional cost
  • if the attacker is forced to surrender by mercs, mercs receive 45 mil.

    • scenario 2:
  • 10 member corp declares a war on 50 member corp.
  • war declaration is 9 mil ISK = (20 mil + .5 * 50) * 0.2


    • both scenarios make it more fair for both sides.
  • when declaring a war on a larger group should be cheaper
  • and if declaring war on a smaller group should be more expensive

    • this could create something like player run "empire police" that would prevent unfair war declarations

    table http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1203/Wardeck_ratio_implemtation.png

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