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PI glitched?
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Dragonfel
Magitek Consortium
#1 - 2012-03-20 02:14:12 UTC
I decided to set up a manufacturing planet making some Tier 4 items (like smartfab units and w/e). I set it up like this:
Launchpad ->(tier 2 materials)-> Factories->(tier 3 mats)-> Launchpad ->(tier 3 mats)-> Factories->(tier 4)->Launchpad

I made it so the tier 2 conversion produces EXACTLY what my tier 4 factories require per hour. It seamed to be working perfectly fine, I gave it enough material to last for 30 hours and checked up on it a couple times and everything was great.

Today I went to export my first batch of tier 4 and something weird happened. It said I had 234 units of my finished good, I went to transfer them to the Customs Office and it gave me an error saying there wasn't enough units available and now there's only 231 of my finished good.

After inspection, it seams like a batch of 3 finished goods converted backwards into the 3 tier 3 units it comes from and is now inside the factory waiting to be made while the other 2 factories are still empty and currently processing materials.

My setup is flawless, but the game reversed one of my finished goods back a step. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#2 - 2012-03-20 02:19:06 UTC
lol Rly? I never check my productions so I never notice.

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Dragonfel
Magitek Consortium
#3 - 2012-03-20 02:23:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dragonfel
Invictra Atreides wrote:
lol Rly? I never check my productions so I never notice.


It's odd, every hour it produces 9 units of tier 4. 3 per factory from 3 factories. Every hour I produce exactly enough material to insert into the factories. So there should NEVER be extra tier 3 items in the system but there currently is enough to be on ONE of my factory's queue space after it gave me the error. It wasn't there before I tried to export my stuff. It's just bizarre.
Aisulu Inichkova
Isle Guard Industries Inc.
#4 - 2012-03-20 07:45:08 UTC
ill have to check my factory planets too.. But i also found another glitch. It has to do with the Extraction Control Units... the output isnt being displayed properly and i think it is effecting the actual output. When i set up the units it gives me a data read out in the thousands, but when i press the install button, its dropped significantly. to the low 600s. Then, when i press the stop program button it goes back to the original high reading. I think this might be effecting the actual PI output. Don't know what else to do other than to petition it.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#5 - 2012-03-20 13:19:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Bugsy VanHalen
Aisulu Inichkova wrote:
ill have to check my factory planets too.. But i also found another glitch. It has to do with the Extraction Control Units... the output isnt being displayed properly and i think it is effecting the actual output. When i set up the units it gives me a data read out in the thousands, but when i press the install button, its dropped significantly. to the low 600s. Then, when i press the stop program button it goes back to the original high reading. I think this might be effecting the actual PI output. Don't know what else to do other than to petition it.

This is affected by your planetology skills. with low skills there is a much higher chance of error in your scans.

When you first setup your extractors the numbers you see are an estimate based on a planet survey which uses your planetology skills to determine accuracy. Even with low skills you can at times get lucky and get a reasonably accurate survey, but you can equally get unlucky and get a very poor survey.
Once you click install, the numbers change from the estimate based on your skills to the actual output you will be getting. with poor skills there can potentially be a huge difference here. You can play with this by clicking install to check actual output then if it is bad cancel and replace the extractor head to try for a better result. However the only way to get a consistently accurate survey is to have high planetology and advanced planetology skills. I would recommend at least 4/4 as a minimum and 5/4 or 5/5 if you really want your survey to be spot on.
Dr Knowles
Burning Brothers of Orthon
#6 - 2012-03-20 14:00:24 UTC
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:

This is affected by your planetology skills. with low skills there is a much higher chance of error in your scans.

When you first setup your extractors the numbers you see are an estimate based on a planet survey which uses your planetology skills to determine accuracy. Even with low skills you can at times get lucky and get a reasonably accurate survey, but you can equally get unlucky and get a very poor survey.
Once you click install, the numbers change from the estimate based on your skills to the actual output you will be getting. with poor skills there can potentially be a huge difference here. You can play with this by clicking install to check actual output then if it is bad cancel and replace the extractor head to try for a better result. However the only way to get a consistently accurate survey is to have high planetology and advanced planetology skills. I would recommend at least 4/4 as a minimum and 5/4 or 5/5 if you really want your survey to be spot on.


This is exactly the reason I came to the forums today. Thank you.
I too get very frustrated by the difference between projected and actual Extractor output.
Shows that it should pull 150K of the given P0 in a 24h cycle, then I hit submit and it's down to 105K for the day.
I already have 4/5 on Planetology
Adding Adv Planetology to the training queue now.
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-03-20 15:47:38 UTC
OP, are you suggest that there's a BUG *gasp* in Eve Online?!?!?!