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Deep Space Probe Exploration Guide

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Maeste Madeveda
The Spawning Pool
#61 - 2012-02-01 21:19:59 UTC
With the new version of the evelopedia, almost all exploration sites are documented. Thus the HTML version of the guide could be updated with the links as it is partially now.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#62 - 2012-02-03 08:54:36 UTC
This is far beyond awesome <3

Huge thanks to St Mio and everyone else who has contributed. I moved back to wspace where I belong, and this technique is a game changer when finding routes thru wormholes.





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Michael Foreman
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2012-02-22 00:01:16 UTC
So am I right?

When I scan the system with my deep scanner probe at 256au with Probe Sensor Strength at 11 points in Fountain, and when i get a result with signal strenght 0.21, I'm still not certain I have a wormhole or a Magnetometric site or a Gravemetric site or an "unknown site"?

Greetings,

Michael
Mnemosyne Gloob
#64 - 2012-02-22 09:08:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Mnemosyne Gloob
Yes you need to scan it down to see what it actually is. However it will only be sites that can be found within this particular band.

The example is a bad one tho. You do not want look for this band, as it contains all the k162s.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2012-02-22 09:30:06 UTC
As Mnemo said, the sheet works better if you look at from the other way 'round and say "I want to find DED 4/10s, what strength signals do I look for and which can I ignore?" as opposed to "I have 0.21, which site is it going to be?"
Bent Barrel
#66 - 2012-02-22 09:52:05 UTC
St Mio wrote:
As Mnemo said, the sheet works better if you look at from the other way 'round and say "I want to find DED 4/10s, what strength signals do I look for and which can I ignore?" as opposed to "I have 0.21, which site is it going to be?"


and this is about the only example where it is usefull ... if you look for radar sites, you have to scan all except the first band. similar for grav sites.

finding the DED sites is the only example where the guide is usefull ...
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#67 - 2012-02-23 11:14:54 UTC
It is extremely useful in wormholes, where you can be facing dozens of signatures and know the static, and want to quickly filter a mass of bands where the static isn't.

There speed can also have real meaning, not just isk/hour :)


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Torijace
The Upside Down
#68 - 2012-02-23 18:12:11 UTC
I have yet to test it out but props on the concept the deep space probe is useful again \o/
James J Hill
Doomheim
#69 - 2012-03-13 23:06:55 UTC
I finally did the Astro V, started using this and realized that I been stupid not to do it immediately upon reading these ideas a year ago. Made a billion following it in the first 3 days, course that means I'll get nothing for a month now (1 week down of that).

For Hi-Sec there must be one sig missing. When I look at LowSec, there is clearly a wh going from low-sec to hi-sec. So either there is something missing from the guide, or the game is broken and there can never be a wormhole that runs from hi-sec to low-sec, there are only K162 in hi-sec that represent the exit from low-sec space.

Over in Black Rise, there is a COSMOS site that is a little stronger than the Vigil, so there are some sigs missing from the guide. The ellatha list show a lot of "Leads into low-sec system" whs.

Oh, and for those that claim the guide is only good for DED sites, nope, I find it helpful for pulling up that wh I want.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2012-03-14 05:34:52 UTC
Thanks James :)

I'll try and have a look again to see if the high -> low WH might have slipped between the cracks somewhere.
Rubinia Valeska
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2012-03-14 23:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Rubinia Valeska
I have very rarely found an R051 WH sig in the same band as the pirate watch and the X702 C3 WH.
Theres another signature missing if you look at the best grav sites for high sec.
Large Hemorphite, Jaspet and Kernite Deposit is probably between the average Hemorphite, Jaspet and Kernite Deposit band and the lowest band.
Michael Foreman
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#72 - 2012-03-19 09:27:27 UTC
Will the new DED plexes, who came with one of the latest patches, be submitted?
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2012-03-19 11:15:26 UTC
Hello!

I have added the 3 new DED 2/10s that CCP added last week, as well as the missing HS->LS wormhole and gravimetric site. I've also checked most of the links to the EVE wiki, and done some fiddling behind the scenes, so maybe the JavaScript will be slightly less terrible now.

Happy exploring, and may you have get lots of loot! (But not more than me)
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-03-19 14:59:56 UTC
May I add your link to the library of informative links and guides that I am compiling here?

[center]The EVE Gateway Blog[/center] [center]One Of EVE Online's Ultimate Resources[/center]
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-03-19 17:15:48 UTC
You are most welcome to Big smile
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-03-19 18:05:45 UTC
Cool thx Big smile

[center]The EVE Gateway Blog[/center] [center]One Of EVE Online's Ultimate Resources[/center]
Michael Foreman
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#77 - 2012-03-26 09:42:09 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Hello!

I have added the 3 new DED 2/10s that CCP added last week, as well as the missing HS->LS wormhole and gravimetric site. I've also checked most of the links to the EVE wiki, and done some fiddling behind the scenes, so maybe the JavaScript will be slightly less terrible now.

Happy exploring, and may you have get lots of loot! (But not more than me)


Cool thanx!
Sir John Halsey
#78 - 2012-05-12 03:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Sir John Halsey
I was doing some high sec exporation today and i found a 0.09 signature (based on my 9.4 probe strenght).
I scanned the sig to 100% and found : Local Guristas Shattered Life-Support Unit

Here i see is a radar site:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Local_Guristas_Shattered_Life-Support_Unit

But in the table at:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/highsec.html
Is in the Magnetrometic section as: Local (pirate) Shatted Life-Support Unit
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2012-05-12 15:47:29 UTC
Sir John Halsey wrote:
I was doing some high sec exporation today and i found a 0.09 signature (based on my 9.4 probe strenght).
I scanned the sig to 100% and found : Local Guristas Shattered Life-Support Unit

Here i see is a radar site:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Local_Guristas_Shattered_Life-Support_Unit

But in the table at:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp/highsec.html
Is in the Magnetrometic section as: Local (pirate) Shatted Life-Support Unit

Thanks John, was a formatting problem on my side, all the sites in that row were shifted one column to the right by accident. All fixed!
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2012-05-29 06:39:21 UTC  |  Edited by: St Mio
Hello!

I spent some time yesterday on SiSi scanning down my alt.

tl;dr scan results for ships are

(Target Signature Radius / Target Sensor Strength) * (Your Probe Strength / Diameter of Scan Probe)

not taking into account deviation.

For my test I used:

  • my amazing exploration Nidhoggur with Expanded Probe Launcher II, vanilla T1 Deep Space Probes and 2x Large Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
  • All three 10% Poteque implants (AP-610, AQ-710, AR-810)
  • Astrometric Acquisition and Astrometric Pinpointing 3
  • Astrometric Rangefinding 4 and Astrometrics 5

My alt then proceeded to swap ships in and out of the carrier, I'd scan them, activate modules, check fitting window, scan, etc etc. I also warped the alt to the furthest planet (22.8 AU away) and then scanned again. In hindsight I should have just moved the probes instead and toggled multiple DSPs on and off.

The rounding off is annoying (in game fitting tool shows sensor strength rounded to the nearest integer, signal results round off after two decimal places, I should have used LogServ to get the untrunctuated probe strength) so I had to try and recalculate more accurate signal strength results using the MWD-active values (highest value per ship, so the smallest error value from rounding off). Just like sites, they play to the (x * probe str / 512) rule, where 512 is your diameter (in game scanner shows radius, probe strength is http://www.swiftandbitter.com/eve/misc/Probe_Strength.jpg ) and x is the cosmic signature/ship's special little number.

The bad news is that there's a lot more deviation than with sites (+0.06 difference with the ship moving 22.8 AU in one case).

On an interesting note, when jumping my Carrier in, the ships my alt popped into had the following locus IDs:

  • Merlin JUY-613
  • Cormorant OVY-472
  • Caracal LWY-819
  • Drake KXY-544
  • Raven SXY-056

Also, his capsule's ID (SFC-600) before he boarded a ship and after I blew up said ship changed (AZF-300). Might be worth looking into how locus IDs work and what the patterns are.

The numbers can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgyYH4Hyu_cZdFNhWnlIMjdfMnpCRjJ6UzY2NzNkV3c

I hope you all have a lovely day. Take care.