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ultimate level 4 mission ship

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bom chickawawa
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-03-18 10:53:37 UTC
What ship do you think is the ultimate solo level 4 mission ship?

what ship has enough tank to not have to warp out and enough dps to blast there way through them as quick as possiable.

please post fit tactics and any other info u feel is relevant

Include price aswell just for the lolz
Creh Ester
Presence under Leisure
#2 - 2012-03-18 11:28:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Creh Ester
I believe rewards from L4s are automatically adjusted according to the average time it takes for players to finish them, so it really isn't in my interest (or anyones) to help people with "as fast as possible".

If you're looking for something that will tank the entire room indefinitely, when you're webbed and scrammed, I don't think such ship exists. Not for the biggest rooms.

There are plenty of ships, including my Cormorant, that will do the rest. If "flown".

The grey drudgers otherwise seem to prefer Macharel and CNR.
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#3 - 2012-03-18 12:28:05 UTC
bom chickawawa wrote:
What ship do you think is the ultimate solo level 4 mission ship?


General:
Machariel
Vargur (if you want to loot/salvage)

vs. Sanshas&Blood Raiders:
Nightmare

vs. Guristas/Angels/Serpentis/EoM/Mercs:
Tengu

for AFK missioning:
Rattlesnake

Of course, there are alternatives that are much cheaper and not all that inferior.
Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-03-18 13:08:12 UTC
Maelstrom is pretty good. And cheap.
Captain Sparro
x13
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-03-18 19:34:58 UTC
Basic mission ships are pretty mutch mach's, nightmares and maruders in general witch all have pretty decent tank and dps, but if we are talking T1 i think ships as abaddon, raven, mega and mealstrom is the best choises depending on you race spec. The mealstrom is prolly the best og the lot i would say, it can vary in dmg types, have defensive bonuses (shield boost amount) and have decent dps on the side. raven is allso popular, maybe mostly for the low skill requirement, but it is slow compared to the remaining 3. But to make it shorter.

My preferance would prolly be.
-mach
-nightmare
-vargur
-golem
-paladin/kronos
-mealstrom
-any of the remaining BS's

For de record, tengu is allso a decent ship, i just prefer the big guns ;)
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-03-18 21:00:43 UTC
IMHO:
Fastest mission completion (but requires brain to be engaged) - machariel (possibly nightmare also) and vargur.
Safest AFK mission runner (not necessarily needing the engagement of brain) - rattlesnake.
Very safe (but needs some brain engaged) - golem.
Most versatile all-rounder (can be used with brain engaged or without much brain engaged) - tengu.
Most interesting (needs a lot of brain engaged) - Any assault frigate, or pirate frigate.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#7 - 2012-03-18 21:29:16 UTC
Fastest would be the Machariel or the Vindicator.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Fynen
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-03-18 23:21:46 UTC
That question is very hard to answer. For one, it depends on your skillset or your willingness to invest time in new skills. For another, it depends on the mission, your enemies there and what you want to get out of it.

Since you obviously have to decide on your own what to do about your skills i'll look at the missions now. I prefer a kronos myself, but any marauder would do. Marauders are specifically designed for missionrunners. You safe ammo because you will get 4 damage highslots with 100% marauder damage bonus instead of 7 or 8. That leaves another 3 utility highslots to use for drone range extender, tractor beams and/or salvager.

Other than the marauders, there are the faction and pirate faction bs. Some of those are really nice to fly in missions. The machariel or the nightmare are well known for their effectiveness with a decent skillset. But you will get good dps out of most other as well.

Remember: First increase your tank until you are comfortable with it. For Armor Tanks like the Kronos that could mean a Core or Centus X-Type Repper with three X-Type Hardener. Depending on the mission you can exchange a hardener for a damage mod and vice versa. But a dualrepper setup of t2 modules will do as well, just with less space for damage mods. Second, increase your dps as much as you can. That can be done with faction modules, faction ammo, skills or even hardwirings. Every percent more means a bit less time used for a mission.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-03-19 00:08:05 UTC
I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems.
stoicfaux
#10 - 2012-03-19 00:11:20 UTC
The "ultimate solo level 4 mission ship" would have to be something like the Tengu for the simple reason that it is viable in low or null sec.

For high-sec missions, I would have to say that the Vargur is probably the "ultimate solo level 4 mission ship" because it can essentially match damage to NPC, has a very easy tank, has lots o' gank, and is pretty stress free to fly. (Stress free = minimal maneuvering required, good tank, and NPCs die easily.) If you don't care about stress, then the MWD Mach is probably the ultimate ship due to it's agility and speed: travel time is significant, the ability to close rapidly means minimizing DPS loss to falloff, you can use just one ship (no need to switch to a fast ship for things like recon 1-3,) and it makes blitzing that much faster.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.

Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-03-19 00:15:07 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems.


LOL, of course ya gonna get the obligatory wannabe piwate in any thread of this kind. They not much to worry about though ... full of bigtalk and yo ho ho, and not much of an actual threat to people unless you stray into lowsec, or do some really stoopid stuff.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

OfBalance
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-03-19 01:05:18 UTC  |  Edited by: OfBalance
Substantia Nigra wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems.


LOL, of course ya gonna get the obligatory wannabe piwate in any thread of this kind. They not much to worry about though ... full of bigtalk and yo ho ho, and not much of an actual threat to people unless you stray into lowsec, or do some really stoopid stuff.


I think you're mistaking me taking a well-meaning pot-shot at someone suggesting a full x-type ship is a good idea for ravenous griefer braggadocio. It takes serious time and, more importantly, effort to gank players in highsec, i'll stick to hazing by other methods.
Conu Leonida
filcaii sus paharu
#13 - 2012-03-19 09:32:41 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
Substantia Nigra wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems.


LOL, of course ya gonna get the obligatory wannabe piwate in any thread of this kind. They not much to worry about though ... full of bigtalk and yo ho ho, and not much of an actual threat to people unless you stray into lowsec, or do some really stoopid stuff.


I think you're mistaking me taking a well-meaning pot-shot at someone suggesting a full x-type ship is a good idea for ravenous griefer braggadocio. It takes serious time and, more importantly, effort to gank players in highsec, i'll stick to hazing by other methods.



There was a thread with a ship with almost 100% Cormack's fit... would that work?
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#14 - 2012-03-19 10:08:01 UTC
I think that the ultimate level 4 ship is the good ship Friendship.
Outlawd
Asset Seizure and Reclaimation
#15 - 2012-03-19 13:33:23 UTC
Power of 2;

Sentry (with drones on assist) Dominix & Nightmare/Proteus/Tengu - switch dependant on mission.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#16 - 2012-03-19 13:36:21 UTC
Outlawd wrote:
Power of 2;

Sentry (with drones on assist) Dominix & Nightmare/Proteus/Tengu - switch dependant on mission.


talos with blasters ^^
Outlawd
Asset Seizure and Reclaimation
#17 - 2012-03-19 13:38:15 UTC
nahjustwarpin wrote:
Outlawd wrote:
Power of 2;

Sentry (with drones on assist) Dominix & Nightmare/Proteus/Tengu - switch dependant on mission.


talos with blasters ^^


Touché

I haven't tried it yet.

Reasoning being, some missions you get "hidden" pockets, that like to warp new rats in, which mess up my world by targetting the ship... I don't want them to target. So, having something with a bit of a tank is nice.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-19 16:06:11 UTC
Conu Leonida wrote:
There was a thread with a ship with almost 100% Cormack's fit... would that work?

The venerable Paladin of Cat is a shining example to us all.

Gorki Andropov wrote:
Friendship.

Outlawd wrote:
Power of 2;

In EVE, these are one in the same. Ugh
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#19 - 2012-03-19 19:41:56 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
Conu Leonida wrote:
There was a thread with a ship with almost 100% Cormack's fit... would that work?

The venerable Paladin of Cat is a shining example to us all.

Gorki Andropov wrote:
Friendship.

Outlawd wrote:
Power of 2;

In EVE, these are one in the same. Ugh



You mean "one and the same", surely? But yes - in EVE this is true. However, I was actually making the point that flying with other people (regardless of the situation) is nearly always more entertaining than grinding along solo. P
OfBalance
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-19 20:05:20 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
You mean "one and the same", surely? But yes - in EVE this is true. However, I was actually making the point that flying with other people (regardless of the situation) is nearly always more entertaining than grinding along solo. P


To quote one Shawn Spencer, "I've heard it both ways." And that's as close to a typo admission as you'll get from me. Bear

Anyway, yes flying with others is more fun, but the observation being made was that most players opt for the safty of alts rather than the companionship of friends who might backstab them and will almost certainly cut into their profits to the point where "bring friends," is almost synonymous with "sub more accounts." Blink
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