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Is the Titan nerf announced for April CCP kowtowing to GOONs?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#201 - 2012-03-16 19:37:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Cearain wrote:
Sure there is. Just because you currently wont lose a titan to a gang of drakes doesn't mean they can't be killed.
But we're not talking about a gang of Drakes either.

So no, there isn't.
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Why do you say I am dumb? I wasn't one of the people piloting a mwd drake against a group of 20 titans and sticking around until I popped.
You understand that the MWD doesn't make much difference, right?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#202 - 2012-03-16 19:48:57 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Why do you say I am dumb? I wasn't one of the people piloting a mwd drake against a group of 20 titans and sticking around until I popped.

If this was a cfc drake fleet why didn't they bring thier own titans? Tippia says you can bring them with no risk. It sounds like you guys know this group always drops titans. So why not fight them? Is it some sort of code of e-honor?


dunno ask the dudes who get killed in afterburning rifters

again you don't understand the concept of "timezone dominance"

go back to scraping veldspar or whatever it is you do

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#203 - 2012-03-16 20:06:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Sure there is. Just because you currently wont lose a titan to a gang of drakes doesn't mean they can't be killed.
But we're not talking about a gang of Drakes either.

So no, there isn't.
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Why do you say I am dumb? I wasn't one of the people piloting a mwd drake against a group of 20 titans and sticking around until I popped.
You understand that the MWD doesn't make much difference, right?



I know enough to know its generally a bad idea to turn one on when I am hoping enemy guns won't be able to track me.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#204 - 2012-03-16 20:14:55 UTC
Cearain wrote:

I know enough to know its generally a bad idea to turn one on when I am hoping enemy guns won't be able to track me.


In other words you literally know less than a day old newbie MWD tackling rifter pilot in null.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#205 - 2012-03-16 20:19:16 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:

Show me a battleship anywhere that can't take out a fleet of rowboats. Only time a rowboat ever did significant damage to a ship was to the Carl Vincent & it was not at battle coms. If they had any warning they woulda blown the suicide rag Headz outa the ocean even if 50 came at them at once & a Battle ship woulda soaked up the explosion easily


lol I'd like to see Millennium Challenge 2002 suicide boats attempt that in RL the simulation has a big gapeing flaw in it.
OK a Titan is a larger ship maybe think of it as a Supercarrier like the Ronald Reagun or ??? still only examples you see of super capitols being taken out are from 2 meter vents or the Millenium Falcon yet both the Death stars did have small gun placements


Can you post some info or provide some links about the time a US Navy carrier group was cyno'd in on top of a bunch of rowboats, because I think that's the particular real world military event that would help us best understand the current situation in Eve.


Well, there was this one time where I did that with a Chronosphere and battleships...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#206 - 2012-03-16 20:21:30 UTC
Cearain wrote:

I know enough to know its generally a bad idea to turn one on when I am hoping enemy guns won't be able to track me.


Also, tell me all about your afterburning inty.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#207 - 2012-03-16 20:29:56 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Cearain wrote:

I know enough to know its generally a bad idea to turn one on when I am hoping enemy guns won't be able to track me.


In other words you literally know less than a day old newbie MWD tackling rifter pilot in null.



Unless he can't otherwise keep up with his tackle, or he is overheating the mwd, he will be better off turnning off the mwd.

Generally its a bad idea to run the mwd if you are trying to outrack guns. I can't see why drakes would be running mwds if they are trying to outrack titans.

I wish more of you null sec pilots would come up to low sec.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone
Caldari State
#208 - 2012-03-16 20:59:57 UTC
You don't seem to understand that if the CFC had more supers these roles would be reversed. Team tech would not deploy supers en masse and the CFC would be complaining about their 'risk aversion.'

All that matters about deploying supers is having more super pilots online than the other guys. That's why it's a bad mechanic and that's why the CFC doesn't drop supers to counter supers.

There is very little risk in deploying titan blobs if you outnumber the enemy titan blob by a large enough factor.

Hoping for a titan to get unlucky and bounce is not a valid counter in the slightest.
Stukkler Tian
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#209 - 2012-03-16 21:11:44 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:

Also, tell me all about your afterburning inty.


ab intys are/were nice for solo stuff especially outside of 0.0 this has changed a little since the af buff. back on topic eve has no endgame. Small alliances do not use titans so stop pretending otherwise. This nerf was for all of eve not just goons. If your really upset about it sell your titan and buy a boatload of subcaps and start enjoying the game again.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#210 - 2012-03-16 21:23:57 UTC
This is the important point: Nobody (except people who enjoy exploiting overpowered stuff in mmos) wants to see an Eve where holding sov requires having hundreds of titans for every single engagement.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#211 - 2012-03-17 04:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Ladie Harlot wrote:
This is the important point: Nobody (except people who enjoy exploiting overpowered stuff in mmos) wants to see an Eve where holding sov requires having hundreds of titans for every single engagement.



I guess the counter point is: NOBODY WANTS TO SEE GATE CAMPING BLOBS of drakes overpowering NULL SEC which the titans can counter?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#212 - 2012-03-17 04:08:20 UTC
ahahahah you think people camp gates with drakes

stick to incursions m8

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#213 - 2012-03-17 04:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Marzetti
DarthNefarius wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
This is the important point: Nobody (except people who enjoy exploiting overpowered stuff in mmos) wants to see an Eve where holding sov requires having hundreds of titans for every single engagement.



I guess the counter point is: NOBODY WANTS TO SEE GATE CAMPING BLOBS of drakes overpowering NULL SEC which the titans can counter?


Whoa, let's see if we can get CCP to nerf caps lock next.

Now, how does Titan tracking counter gate camping blobs?

Edit: Oh god I missed where he said drakes. Hahahahaa get out.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#214 - 2012-03-17 04:15:41 UTC
fyi your risk-free isk fountain with concord protection has done far more damage to nullsec than titan tracking or drake blobs

since you apparently care so much about nullsec, i think we can both agree that hisec incursions should be removed from the game

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#215 - 2012-03-17 04:20:33 UTC
I have heard, however, that Titans have been very effective in countering ratting drakes in null. Maybe that's what he meant.
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club
#216 - 2012-03-17 04:32:06 UTC
Super Capital ships were poorly thought out in the first place. Created from complaints about regular Capital Ships.

Now people are complaining about Super Capital Ships.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#217 - 2012-03-17 04:46:15 UTC
Pink Marshmellow wrote:
Super Capital ships were poorly thought out in the first place. Created from complaints about regular Capital Ships.

Now people are complaining about Super Capital Ships.


hakarl is a very powerful thing

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Shade Millith
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#218 - 2012-03-17 05:14:27 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Rightly or wrongly that is a conclusion almost all in Eve can come to rightfully believe. I actually don't care 1 way or the other since I've never felt particularly threatened by goons & always saw thru their scams & laughed but with the Titan nerf announced the refrain:
" CCP should just make it so titans cant lock maelstroms and drakes and just get this over with. " seems justified
With the current CSM elections going the way they seem to be unless everyone starts voting against MITTENS in a unified fashion Ithink this perception that CCP has a hard on for goons is just going to grow INCREDIBLY!


Not a Goon, but I honestly believe that Titans shouldn't be able to hit anything smaller than a carrier.

EVE Online is already getting the nickname of Supercaps Online. Any changes to stop this is a good thing.



And Drakes (As they are right now) have counters. Gallente HAC's, or throw an extra Kin hardener onto your BS.

How much longer these counters will work, I don't know. CCP seems pretty intent of buffing Drake Armies.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#219 - 2012-03-17 06:53:48 UTC
Andski wrote:
ahahahah you think people camp gates with drakes

stick to incursions m8


Got me there I am mostly an incursion runner looking to NULL SEC next... I believe I do want to start exporing SOV space soon but am a bit concerned about the shape o things. Doubt I'd be able to fly Titans anytime in the next year. With way things are heading maybe I should consider W-Space first or not or just play in lo sec I'm on the tight rope...
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#220 - 2012-03-17 11:44:41 UTC
You're whining about nerfs to a ship that you'll never own and considering moving to wormholes, the land of no supercaps?

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