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Can we have the date on the clock back? Thanks.

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TR4D3R4LT
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-03-14 18:37:06 UTC
Scrapyard Bob wrote:

The CCP responses are not acceptable.

Give us the option to display it as any or all of the following:

- EVE Day of Week (localized using the short abbreviation such as Mon/Tue/Wed, default to OFF)
- EVE Date (default to ON)
- EVE Time (default to ON)
- Local Time (default to OFF)

The defaults for the date area should match how it's been for the last few years.


What this man said. It cant be hard to code these options under right click over clock menu. You can surely make it so that clock as it's now (takes half of the height of new group) auto adjust to take max two group heights (all 4 options on.) What's more, I do hope that all the things like this, captain quarters, then return to ship hangar teach it's much much better to code in OPTIONS. Instead of first coding something, then later backtracking resources to it simply because people generally dislike being forced to adopt new things.

Think about it, if you had coded the above options in at first spot, instead of simple removal, the person atm splitting hairs over coding tooltips and whatnot in wouldnt need to do that, what's more, you could have touted it as FEATURE "Now you're able to control what important data you want to see and what not." Instead of "we thought you didnt want that feature(ship spinning, date, xyz) anyway."

Please, for love of whatever that's holy and left in CCP office, learn from these mistakes as people generally dislike complaining of similar things over and over after each patch.
Ticarus Hellbrandt
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-03-14 19:09:51 UTC
CCP Optimal wrote:
We intentionally removed the date.

We don't remove things like these because we're evil,

but rather because we don't feel that the information being displayed is important enough to justify taking up valuable screen space.



Why dont you just ask us (the players) if we can justify it taking up 10 pixels in the bottom corner.

All these worthless changes without a shred of communication about whether the players would like it or not.

Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-03-14 19:35:27 UTC
+1'ing this thread, even if it's moot.

Ready to get the date back!
Glarbl Blarbl
Orion-Glarbl Mining Bureau
#44 - 2012-03-14 19:58:27 UTC
I'd like the date back too. I joined last May so I've had the date in the corner for my whole Eve career, it is invaluable since I'm on a different date than the server for 2/3rds of the day.

Not a tooltip, please -- an option in the config dialog so people who want it can have it all the time.

Thanks!
Naomi Shana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-03-15 11:06:43 UTC
Glarbl Blarbl wrote:
I'd like the date back too. I joined last May so I've had the date in the corner for my whole Eve career, it is invaluable since I'm on a different date than the server for 2/3rds of the day.

Not a tooltip, please -- an option in the config dialog so people who want it can have it all the time.

Thanks!


^This.
Chin Hakonen
United Evian Peace Corp
#46 - 2012-03-15 12:19:58 UTC
Date back please, it's ridiculous to say the date takes up real estate space it's right
at the bottom corner and the neocom can be set to hide itself anyways. Don't
treat us like children and give us lame excuses that has no common sense
in it.

Peace is the way of my war.

Raabe
Omni-InternOps
#47 - 2012-03-16 20:46:07 UTC
please ... bring back the date!
thanks a lot.

never change a running system!

nardaq
Orion Expeditions
#48 - 2012-04-10 16:56:38 UTC
eta?

highlight the current day with the almost same color as background is fail imho. plz get it sorted...
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#49 - 2012-04-12 21:16:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Morwen Lagann
From CCP Explorer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/erlendur/status/190543285855592448

Quote:
@MorwenLagann @CCP_Punkturis @CCP_karkur @Grideris BTW, date on clock has been fixed internally; I'm checking if early release is possible.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#50 - 2012-04-14 00:32:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Explorer
Morwen Lagann wrote:
From CCP Explorer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/erlendur/status/190543285855592448

Quote:
@MorwenLagann @CCP_Punkturis @CCP_karkur @Grideris BTW, date on clock has been fixed internally; I'm checking if early release is possible.
Early release confirmed, will be a part of Escalation; pending for a later SiSi build.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Altair Raja
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-04-14 04:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Altair Raja
CCP Optimal wrote:
We intentionally removed the date.
Can you add an option ot have it turned back on then?

CCP Optimal wrote:
We don't remove things like these because we're evil, but rather because we don't feel that the information being displayed is important enough to justify taking up valuable screen space.
But It hardly even takes up any space...


EDIT: should of read the 3rd page, Thank you Morwen Lagann/CCP Explorer

AFK cloaking doesn't earn anything, so it needs a buff!

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#52 - 2012-04-14 07:57:21 UTC
Thank you so much CCP

Clicking on Date = Caldander makes alot more sense than clicking on a clock
Maybe we should get an alarm tool for the clock to log us off after a set time who knows.

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Archare
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-04-14 14:10:41 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Morwen Lagann wrote:
From CCP Explorer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/erlendur/status/190543285855592448

Quote:
@MorwenLagann @CCP_Punkturis @CCP_karkur @Grideris BTW, date on clock has been fixed internally; I'm checking if early release is possible.
Early release confirmed, will be a part of Escalation; pending for a later SiSi build.



\o/
CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#54 - 2012-04-14 14:25:36 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Morwen Lagann wrote:
From CCP Explorer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/erlendur/status/190543285855592448

Quote:
@MorwenLagann @CCP_Punkturis @CCP_karkur @Grideris BTW, date on clock has been fixed internally; I'm checking if early release is possible.
Early release confirmed, will be a part of Escalation; pending for a later SiSi build.
So that there is no confusion, please refer to https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=937374#post937374 on what exactly will be added.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#55 - 2012-04-14 15:36:27 UTC
A tooltip is not much of an improvement over what we have to deal with now. It's information that we used to have right in front of us, now hidden away behind a mouse movement.

Most folks would be happy if you'd simply stick the day of month number back above the clock as the default (so "day-of-month", line break, "EVE time"). With an option to turn off the day-of-month display and just show the EVE time.

You would get bonus points for allowing even more customization such as displaying the day of week or local time in addition to the EVE clock as options.
NorthCrossroad
EVE University
Ivy League
#56 - 2012-04-14 15:59:39 UTC  |  Edited by: NorthCrossroad
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Early release confirmed, will be a part of Escalation; pending for a later SiSi build.
So that there is no confusion, please refer to https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=937374#post937374 on what exactly will be added.
Guys, it's not you were asked for. Really. The point of having a date is to be able to see it easily, without additional actions like moving the mouse. Please, don't start selective hearing thing again.

North
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-04-15 15:52:52 UTC
NorthCrossroad wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Early release confirmed, will be a part of Escalation; pending for a later SiSi build.
So that there is no confusion, please refer to https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=937374#post937374 on what exactly will be added.
Guys, it's not you were asked for. Really. The point of having a date is to be able to see it easily, without additional actions like moving the mouse. Please, don't start selective hearing thing again.

North
This. Please add the EVE date back to the main UI.

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Altair Raja
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-04-16 01:22:23 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
CCP Optimal is going to add the date to the tool tip when the mouse is hovered over the time. A work item has been created.

Can you also add it as a number under the time as a whole then...
Dont need the month, just the day!

AFK cloaking doesn't earn anything, so it needs a buff!

Rimase
#59 - 2012-04-16 07:36:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rimase
Dafuk, guys? It's just a date. Look at your taskbar's systemtray!

CCP I compel u not to submit to minorities on forum. :P

Looking to join Caldari Faction Warfare corporation!

NorthCrossroad
EVE University
Ivy League
#60 - 2012-04-16 13:49:26 UTC
Rimase wrote:
Dafuk, guys? It's just a date. Look at your taskbar's systemtray!

CCP I compel u not to submit to minorities on forum. :P
If you play in fullscreen or fixed window - you don't see taskbar.

North