Out of Pod Experience

I've recently returned briefly but I love Eve, despite being a pretty average pilot, I love the atmosphere, the ever changing world and politics, and I was hoping that due to being a "pretty average" pilot (I hope you get what I really mean :p) That I'd be able to be part of the world via Dust. However it seems that it's not going to be out on PC and only on PS3 which is a shame because I have some trust issues regarding Sony.

Anyway I recently tried the original Planetside and absolutely loved it and look forward to trying Planetside 2 when it comes out (free to play as well like dust) But I was wondering is Dust 514 going to be compromised because PC gamers may just download and play planetside 2 instead, since they seem very similar.

Dust inifinit sided war

PS2 3 sided war.

There is also the prospect that there wouldnt have poltiics dust 514 will have.

Honestly man, both those games fall under SOE's banner so I am going to go play FireFall instead. Seriously...

Yeah like with EVE!

DUST 514 is a 32vs32 Battlefield/CoD clone.

Planetside 2 is a persistent world with territorial conquest and battles supposedly consisting of up to 1000 players.

On a conceptual level, and I am going to be bias here, Dust 514 without a shred of a doubt but for how the game actually plays (and feels) remains to be seen.

As for PlanetSide 2, the main reason the game(s) never really appeared on my radar is because it just looks like Tribes with larger maps. I do love Tribes but I just don't see the point of playing a Tribes game with larger maps and more people, but if SOE have a public beta or I manage to get a hold of a beta key then maybe...

I detect sarcasm and stupidity.

1) EVE has done better than many others, and done it with less. Just because you got butthurt about one of the least intrusive cash shops of all time {KANYE} OF ALL TIME {/KANYE} doesn't mean they did badly.



2) 32v32 -IS- massive, show me the planet-side screen shot with 32 people fighting 32 people instead of splitting up, stretching out over half a mile running from a spawn point and having little 10v10 or 12v12's wherever they meet or standing in a ******* line to get a vehicle on a timer. '1,000 are playing' is not the same thing as '500v500' battles. And yes I use two numbers on purpose because their three faction system only had all three meet (Edit-- In quantity sufficient to matter on this topic..) EXTREMELY rarely in my experience.

Now obviously this is dependent upon game design. If PS2 is a 'better' game then sure, it will have bigger battles, but that has nothing to do with actual population because 32 v 32 is a huge fight. If Dust514 does the OBVIOUS thing and makes people pick their stuff before the fight so all they do is shoot at eachother and take objectives, and they design their maps nice and open, then 32v32 could easily feel bigger than Planet-Side 1 or 2 ever will with 500 people all broken up and busy doing things other than fighting.



3) PS2 is cloning BF/CoD as well. Just like the entire MMO market does to WoW, you're going to see CoD clone mentioned for every mainstream FPS that is not a remake, even some remakes as we see here.

Just take note so when short sighted people tell you 'CoD wasn't the first shooter game ever!!! Theyre not all CoD clones!!!' you can roll your eyes like I do at that WoW argument today. Everything is going to clone CoD/BF2, and since you've played them along with other shooters you're going to know it just like I tried WoW when it was new compared to other MMO's and I see the ways it's copied.

I played an objective-oriented stealther (not running around trying to shoot one guy in the back, watching the battle to find and blow up mobile spawn points with CE, knifing groups of snipers, ninja hacking towers etc. I typically did not even carry a gun.)

I watched MANY MANY skirmishes people later referred to as 'epic' battles sitting on a hill side or on top of a stairwell roof that were nothing more than a squad of guys with grenade launchers, a reaver, and a tank firing into a base door making a platoon+random people panic just inside the door and camp afraid to go outside and I caused several 'victories' when I di things like remote detonated their tank and lied in chat and said they had left so people came out and started fighting.

The good 'big' battles that were so much fun involved 100+, sure. When we had one of those I would break out the suppressor rifle and go out in agile a few respawns and have a ball plus get more XP than I had in several days of sabatoge... but you're not fighting 100 people. That's not something you can compare to a shooter and call it 50+v50+ like a CoD game is 16v16.

Five or so guys are straight camping in the command center of every base and tower involved. Flat out fifteen people on the defensive side doing NOTHING for 20min+ in that count except cracking jokes on vent about the names they see in the kill spam, all for stopping people like me from hacking it, and they didn't always even succeed.

Every camper in the CoD game is shooting at someone in the few minutes the round lasts, every camper is in a place people are passing constantly, every rusher is spawning ON an ally and fighting. If you make a game like that at 32v32 with open maps (Dust514) that's just as big as anything that happened in planet-side though to be fair... perhaps not as interesting for someone like me. Like I said, I will be buying PS2. :)