EVE General Discussion

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These changes were not in the patch notes!

I demand an answer from CCP! This is outright bullshitting the community!


On the other hand, most of the names downgrade the sci-fi-feeling, and are very disturbing to the hundreds of thousands active players, but little of a help for a handful of new players, not that CCP would care.

It goes like this:

- messed up with Micro Transactions (Nex Store) and beeing afraid now, how people will act

- try to change a few things first, to test reactions (AB / MWD / Missile names)

- ignore the complaints of the community to these changes, nothing too bad happens

- push harder with stealth-patching 2000 other items names for no reason

=> feel confident now, that the community can be pushed around, again

=> downgrade EVE to easy mode, so that all the wow-kiddys get stuck to it

=> squeeze all possible $$ out of it

TBH they could call anything in the game they want anything they want and it wouldn't matter to me. So who cares.

In fact why call all kinetic dealing missiles "trauma" or whatever it is now. I'd be more happy with "Kinetic Heavy missile" "kinetic rocket" ect.

"ZOMG you're ruining my ability to pretend I'm a spaceship pilot with your names of these items that aren't as 'sci-fi' any more!"

If you like to and are able to pretend that "eve is real", which is all fine and dandy if it's what you like to do, then pretend the names of the items in your pretend world are more sci-fi. Seems simple enough.

Troll?

Its Fox, learn the difference.
Foxes have a nasty habbit of turning things around and biting you back.
Also stop obsessing over me, it has yet to been healthy for anyone that has done so in the past.

Now then onto the complaints.

Changes where mentioned in the patch notes:



CCP has answered. A dozen or so times. Just becuase you make a thread aimed at ccp doesnt mean youll get a response especially when CCP beats you in making a feedback thread. Now if it was possible to drag and drop threads from one spot into another for consolidation that be a wonderful feature for thier end.

CSM didnt throw thier hands in the air after being shown the future of the MT store CSM even further interated back on how it should be better handeled. Microtransaction stores are getting big, and you're right its money. Money ccp needs to compete against publishing giants like EA which is now developing a game to counter eve directly. CCP only makes 66 million in raw pay a month, take home pay is probably much lower. When mordern game development takes 100's of millions of dollars and outrival hollywood movies of course its all about the money. CSM and the eve community have already expressed the best possible comprimise between MT and the pay to play model. which is nothing ever directly MT'd would ever be combat advantage.

Hmm I wonder why the scourge name was changed back.
Once again I wonder why scourge name was changed back.
Those 9000 other items included a rifter launcher as in it shoot out rifters, self destruct devices, pilotable rogue drone ships, and various attempts at a tech 3 module, impossible ships, and extremly weird things. They wouldnt be missed... that much.

CCP isnt like EA, EA is charging a reactivation fee for ToR, hiding the cancel buttons, and deleting accounts that quit forcing a rebuy of the client software.

IF CCP was like any ohter mmo they would CHARGE you for EVERY Expansion, CHARGE you for the CD, and block you off from getting red roped access to any content without paying for all what 18 expansions?

And you're crying this much over a name change?

Grow up.
Adapt.
or Die.

troll elsewhere, please

If you want to argue facts and insult people, at least get the numbers right.....It's YEAR.....

Kinetic energy delivers such a descriptive wound.

'Blunt implement' = 'Trauma'
'Fireballs' = 'Scorch marked pants'
'Arms and legs everywhere' = 'Explosion'
'Electronic damage' = 'EMP shockwaves'

Last one, bit iffy.

Usually, when something gets rebranded, the new brand name appears 'everywhere', however I think some places got forgotten:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Ammunition_&_Charges:Missiles:Heavy_Missiles:Standard_Heavy_Missiles

Who owns this database? I think they should be poked a couple of times with a Blunt implement.

meh can't be perfect you know?
But Ill be level headed enough to say, yup screwed up by 12x.

There are alot of numbers out there though and even worse estimates such as Eve possibly nearing the 400k sub mark which is alot better than the quater billion spent into the sinking mmo ship known as ToR which requires minmal 500k subs to operate according to BW and all indicators are saying they're are projected to go below that very soon as the 3 month 2 month subs are up and the desperation to the free to play weekend (whcih is rather shorter than eves 60 day offers at time then again both games are at different time scales.)

Bottom line about the name change complaints though is mostly unfounded.

We got them to change names twice and according to chaos test server we got a partial comprimise going on.
Which basically changes alot of items to have a meta prefix for a name now.

We understood the need to get rid of meta guessing.
We understood the need for uniformity.
We understood that renaming items isnt a form of dumbing down the game it doesnt boost anything it doenst nerf anything and the names ultimately still doesnt effect how well an idiot can fail with said module when its used wrong.
We didnt like how flavor was being taken now the new chaos changes indicate we won there and falvor names are staying.
We didnt like turma missile names for some reason, thus scourge changes.
We loved the new implant renames.

Thus progress in some areas not so much in others there are about 10k items it will take a while to rename them all.

Thats how I feel!

And well, the trolls here are almost a real nuisance, but thats how kids act these days... Go to reddit and l2troll!

This is beyond annoying, why ccp why?

Well slight problem with saying just I,

It would indicate that I am alone in this issue. Which with the existence of the OP im clearly no where near alone. Along with 200 pages+ of combined compalints/feedback/support/counter support.

Also further interating ccp never blamed anyone on at least taking a step back keeping thier ears open and willing to re - renames.

I however am not scratching my head though guy doing the renames is only in charge of writing thus stuff like mission text, name of items, corp descriptions, item descriptions are all in its department, He has little to do with the other long standing issues. It would be like getting the avatar artists to work reducing lag.

None the less there are plenty of writing relating fixes they could have gone in and fixed but its all on a big todo list none the less.

They could be naming planets in all high sec and the moons if they where really running out of stuff to do.