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Anoms and Escalations
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Chance el'Allin
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-03-05 19:43:08 UTC
Is there a fixed relationship between the anoms and the type of escalation you can expect? I saw a post earlier that alluded to a relationship between forsaken hubs and escalations and also Rally points to other escalations. Is there a fixed relationship between the 2 categories of sites?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2012-03-05 20:01:01 UTC
Chance el'Allin wrote:
Is there a fixed relationship between the 2 categories of sites?


Yes. Site X will always escalate to expedition Y.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#3 - 2012-03-06 02:15:42 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Chance el'Allin wrote:
Is there a fixed relationship between the 2 categories of sites?


Yes. Site X will always escalate to expedition Y.


Not true.

One example: Gurista hideaway can escalate to DED 3/10 or DED 4/10.

Also, contrary to popular belief (and my own as well) they don't always go to DED sites. They can actually go to unrated sites as well (experienced this in fountain a while back).
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2012-03-06 06:23:41 UTC
Duly noted and retracted. I should really get out of BR/Sansha space more.
Czeris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-03-06 09:00:06 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Chance el'Allin wrote:
Is there a fixed relationship between the 2 categories of sites?


Yes. Site X will always escalate to expedition Y.


Not true.

One example: Gurista hideaway can escalate to DED 3/10 or DED 4/10.

Also, contrary to popular belief (and my own as well) they don't always go to DED sites. They can actually go to unrated sites as well (experienced this in fountain a while back).


Hidden Hubs escalate to the first stage of fleet staging posts.
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-03-06 10:43:39 UTC
I got port escalated into 7/10

I think someone should make a wiki about this subject.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-03-06 12:07:21 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
I think someone should make a wiki about this subject.

I nominate Emperor Salazar for this honourable undertaking!
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#8 - 2012-03-06 13:19:15 UTC
Sanctums always escalate to the Factions DED 10/10 plex (Guristas Sanctum = The maze, for example)

Havens always escalate to the Factions DED 10/10 (exception unless CCP changed it: I've gotten 8/10s from Angel Havens as well, never got 8/10s from any other pirate faction's Havens)

Regular Hubs always escalate to the Faction's 8/10 DED plex.

ALL "Named" Hubs (Forsaken, Forlorn, Hidden) escalate to the Faction's Non-DED Fleet Staging Point)

ALL "Named" Rally Points (Forsaken, Forlorn, Hidden) escalate to the Factions 8/10 DED plex.

Regular Ports escalate to DED 7/10 plexs

ALL Named Dens (Forskaen, Forlorn, Hidden) Escalate to the Faction's 7/10 plexs

Those are the anoms you now find regularly in Null sec. I have no idea about the kinds you find in High or Low sec. I also have little experience in Sansha Null Sec, but the above applies to Angel, Guristas, Serpentis, and Blood Raider space.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#9 - 2012-03-06 15:40:23 UTC
St Mio wrote:
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
I think someone should make a wiki about this subject.

I nominate Emperor Salazar for this honourable undertaking!


Thought about it.

Then I realized how much grinding I would have to do.

Also, screw documentation of exploration.
Chicken Pizza
One-man Armada
#10 - 2012-03-07 10:34:58 UTC
There are usually more than one type of each anomaly. In order for someone to properly answer a question like this, we would need statistical data on not only each anomaly type(port, hub, haven, etc.), but also the different difficulties of each(hidden, forsaken, forlorn, because they have their own escalations as well), AND the differently sized anomalies(i.e. there are big sanctums, and there are little sanctums).

Until all of these have been observed and recorded, there really isn't an answer to your question. The only fact proven thus far is that each escalates to something.
Marangwe
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-03-13 20:41:44 UTC
What about high sec anoms? Like when you use the system scanner and all of these anoms pop up. Are those lucrative? How do they work? Everytime I have warped to one.. they seem pointless and just a waste of ammo.
Chicken Pizza
One-man Armada
#12 - 2012-03-15 13:34:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Chicken Pizza
Marangwe wrote:
What about high sec anoms? Like when you use the system scanner and all of these anoms pop up. Are those lucrative? How do they work? Everytime I have warped to one.. they seem pointless and just a waste of ammo.


They aren't very lucrative, though they do still have chances for faction spawns or escalations to signature PLEX's at the end.
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-15 13:44:48 UTC  |  Edited by: St Mio
As the delicious poster above me said, running them gives you a possible chance of a faction spawn, which has a possible chance of dropping faction loot better than Tags&Ammo™. At the same time you also have the possibility of getting an escalation to a DED 3/10 or DED 4/10 reserved specially for you: no one else can scan it down initially, only you have the warp in, however once you're in it, combat probes can find you and your drones as normal. Basically you get first dibs on it. These might be in high or might be in lowsec.

However, the chances of getting that good spawn/escalation are pitiful at best. You're probably better of exploring for "real" sites, or running even low level missions if you're going to be in highsec. The low and null anoms at least give decent amounts of bounties whereas the highsec ones...
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#14 - 2012-03-15 14:40:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ikonia
I am doing my business spread over all sec stati. In Highsec i found that 3 different plexes lead to the same epedition. Also i found that the plex can lead into different expeditions.

In lowsec i got more or less always the same expedition from the most plexes i found. That indicates, that there are only few existing, or i had simply always the same mission by random. Both is possible.

Since i am not that often nullsec i dont have experience on expeditions there (though id like to have, but hell, as a 2 men corp chances are tiny to null)

I believe that expeditions are depending on the region also like the anomalities. Certain u can get everywhere, certain u just can get in specific areas from specific sites. Would be the most probable modell id choose as a programmer if i want to keep a very small sized topic relatively hard to understand. A fine mixture of statics and variables without any logic rules - thats what i call confusing :)

Cheers