EVE General Discussion

Right, since so many of you don't see this as a main issue and you fail to see why I even posted this, I guess it's just me (and the two guys that mentioned it too to me ingame), but that's not much so.. whatever.

To whoever posted 'is this really high on your list', yeah, it is. Because this is part of a theme of CCP making everything so ******* big that your screen is completely blocked out. Overview has grown out of proportion, which is The Main annoyance with the UI right now. This latest icon change is just following that trend.

As for the people who think I'm either a) kid or b) run a low resolution:
I'm 34 and usually run four to six clients, 1600x900, overlapping eachother over two-three monitors. This way I can pay attention to overview, targets, HUD and local, while at the same time not having a competely **** looking game. At 1600x900 (on monitors that obviously can run alot higher res) my clients are, by all means, quite 'small'. My icons are quite small. My text is quite small. That's the whole point.

The grief I have is that all these changes is making everything look like 640x480 again, with massive blocks of icons and text taking over the whole screen. And let's face it: CCP does these changes to make the game more appealing and adaptible for the players, right? Well, the effect is the reversed! It was actually better before we could adapt it. See what I try highlight now? It's not about a single border, it's a theme/string of changes that all have the counterproductive effect of what it's trying to achieve. And the common theme among these changes is that these changes clearly is looking different on different hardware, with different setups, to different people. I.e. why the hell is "adaptible" settings forcing us unto something that (to some) makes the game more annoying?

Clearly tho I'm an idiot, as your setups is superior to mine and my eye vision too strong or something (it's not allowed to run too small icons and text, so's noticed). Alright, I'll try find some glasses that makes everything a bit more blurry. Or buy more monitors, so I can run bigger resolutions on more monitors.

This has me very curious. Does your layout look that much different than this?

http://www.neoncranium.com/eveui.jpg

I just took that shot a few minutes ago. Resolution 1920 x 1080. I run 4 accounts simultaneously in windowed mode (same computer, same monitor, alt-tabbing as needed). I see nothing wrong with it as far as screen real estate goes. Plenty of room for my stuffs. Where are you running out of screen space?

The problem looks to me like the height of the bars has been scaled down to a non-integer pixel height. Rather than using some smooth rendering where the bars might get blurred, the bars are drawn on the nearest integer pixel. Thus the top and bottom bars are a pixel or two shorter than the middle bar.

In addition the icon for the target is significantly larger.

In a perfect world you'd use the Quartz image scaling mechanism (which blurs lines rather than insisting on an integer pixel render), but I'm not sure if Apple wants to licence that ;) And in that same perfect world, we'd be able to scale the target list independently of the rest of the UI. I really don't need target boxes to be that large, I'd be quite happy with something much smaller now that the horizontal width of the HP bars is greater.

Besides, my screen isn't wide enough to support 12 targets and an overview.

In the future, we'll all be using screens with physical pixels that are indiscernible (what Apple calls "retina display" technology). There's no need to handicap yourself to constraining logical pixels to being physical pixels. Heck, one option would be to render the UI to a plane then scale that plane to fit: let the graphics card take care of the scaling and composition.

The change in the spacing would account for the problems I'm having. I like my targets stacked vertically and from today’s patch the text below each icon is overlapped by the next icon down making reading what I'm shooting at very difficult.

I'll try different resolutions tomorrow and see if that makes any difference and send a screenshot and bug report.

Now try to do the same thing with a PVP window setup, especially in a drone ship. I run 1920x1200, and I run out of space plenty quick (though it is a lot easier to fit than on my old 1680x1050 setup).

http://i.imgur.com/kHOuH.jpg

I can't really imagine a situation where I'd need my screen covered like that. You don't seem to have much more open than I do. You just have it all stretched out really big. Why?

Ah the mating call of the butthurt gamer. Any slight change to a game, no matter how innocuous, and they can be heard for miles.

If a few more UI items expand by a few pixels each, you will not be able to cram the same information onto the screen due to being a few rows too short. Reducing the scaling from 0.9 to 0.8 would help, but simply not expanding the UI to take up more space would be better,

One thing that caught my eye with the change to the sh/ar/st bars isn't the tiny change to the spacing between them, cause that doesn't make them take up significantly more space.... It is however the fact that the outline on each bar is much brighter then it used to be.

When the outline of the bar gets more visible against the blackness of space it becomes more eye-catching and therefore looks bigger. When looking at the entire screen, the outlines of the bars, makes all targeted ships/structures stand out more then everything else on screen, drawing your attention to them without reason.

To some, that can be very annoying

Can you bug report the issue please?