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0.0 Planet Access

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Inquisitor Tyr
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#1 - 2012-03-13 21:32:42 UTC
With the recent introduction of Player Controlled Customs Offices, it seems now may be the time to consider improvements to the way Customs Office owners are able to run their structures. My primary objective is to increase a system holder’s freedom in the administration of their system.

What I would like to see: Allow system holders to grant planetary access to any entity they specify.

Currently, and this is not the way it has always been; only the dominant sovereignty holder in a system may setup command centers in that system. This is to prevent outside forces from exploiting the planets. The negative outcome of that is that coalition alliances, any out of corp alts you might have, and friendly “light blue” corporations that you are sharing space with are all prevented from setting up planets in your territory. But I see an alternative.

With the introduction of Player controlled customs offices, corporations and alliances can now collect tax from planetary goods. So being able to specify additional entities that can access your planets has benefits. And of course, considering the time and isk it takes to setup a Customs Office, not the mention the general hassel of taking sov in the first place, there ought to be a way to administer your planets as you see fit.

Create the ability to specify planetary access by taking advantage of existing corp and/or alliance standings, and by adding a check box that allows the director to specify:
1) If planetary access should be based on Corp Standings or Alliance Standings and
2) The minimum required standing to setup colonies.

A system wide settings box could be easily added to the TCU since they exist in all sov space. Or perhaps on the Player Owned Customs Offices themselves, granting the ability to set access for each planet.

Thank you for reading. If you think is a reasonable suggestion, please encourage your corp mates to voice their support.
Mistress Aydia
Inquisition Logistics
Twenty Thousand Leagues Out of the SEA.
#2 - 2012-03-13 23:02:47 UTC
I support this idea.
b1mind
Gasta Trading
Allied Traders
#3 - 2012-03-14 01:17:31 UTC
This is a great idea indeed! Fully support it.
Hyacinthine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-03-14 04:34:18 UTC
While I wouldn't put this at the top of any lists of needed changes or areas of the game that need work, this should definitely happen eventually. (Of course, we no longer have even a half... butted... system of controlling jump bridges with the move away from passwords, so I'm not expecting much. Any improvement is still an improvement, though!)
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#5 - 2012-03-14 07:26:50 UTC
I think it should work lowsec style.

If you can fly into a system, clear out the customs offices that are already there (InterBus or not), then you should be able to plop down a custom's office no matter who owns the system. Kind of like ninja setting up a POS.

This would allow blues to set up shop in your space. Also if you really want to fly into hostile space with a hauler and a structure shooting fleet then you are more than welcome to set up a PoCo there. Granted it'll get reinforced 10 minutes after you leave, but go for it bro.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

PeterBOOM
Dragon Can Surf
Silent Infinity
#6 - 2012-03-14 08:35:45 UTC
Nice idea. And it can bring more players into 0.0 and make eve more active. It benefits both the owner and the blues and make sov more sov.
Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#7 - 2012-03-14 13:33:41 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:
If you can fly into a system, clear out the customs offices that are already there (InterBus or not), then you should be able to plop down a custom's office no matter who owns the system. Kind of like ninja setting up a POS.


I think this is an important point.

We can currently setup POSs anywhere, while planet access is tied to sov. Ugh

Also, there may be those interested in "ninja-PI," utilizing rockets to transport their goods from the surface (if taxes are too high or they can't access the POCO).

In general, there should not be any obstacles to putting down a planetary Command Center, anywhere. The obstacle is whether or not you can access the POCO.
Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
The Fourth District
#8 - 2012-03-18 20:42:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dex Nederland
While I was the last one to post; I thought of another thing related to PI & Null-Sec that could be beneficial

Introduce a mechanism by which PI projects (perhaps tied to value exported) impacts the Industrial Index of a system.

Also another Industrial Array could be added which impacts PI.
Demion Samenel
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
#9 - 2012-05-30 13:08:41 UTC
Made a petition about this, got response that I should make a fourm post about it, but this one was better. Deserves a bump!

Captain Demion Samenel

Chief of Diplomatic Staff

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insane marine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-07 06:43:14 UTC
I fully support this idea!
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#11 - 2012-06-07 06:45:55 UTC
Personally, I think planetary ownership should be detached from space based sovereignty and POCO owners all together.

1 Planet should be able to support multiple POCOs....

The Sov holder should not have any ability to deny people access to planets unless its by means of sheer brute force of spaceboats.

So I'm gonna go with a -1 here.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Inquisitor Tyr
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#12 - 2012-06-07 20:51:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Inquisitor Tyr
Asuka Solo wrote:
Personally, I think planetary ownership should be detached from space based sovereignty and POCO owners all together.

1 Planet should be able to support multiple POCOs....

The Sov holder should not have any ability to deny people access to planets unless its by means of sheer brute force of spaceboats.

So I'm gonna go with a -1 here.


Says a guy from an empire based industrial alliance that holds no Sov. Well, your opinion on Sov space is surely valid...
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Stark_Enterprises
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=6220

And you clearly misunderstand, because with the current system, access is already denined to everyone except the sov holder. Aka "sheer brute force of spaceboats" as you put it. Next time do your research before you run your mouth on a subject you have no firsthand expereince with.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#13 - 2012-06-08 05:46:55 UTC
Inquisitor Tyr wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
Personally, I think planetary ownership should be detached from space based sovereignty and POCO owners all together.

1 Planet should be able to support multiple POCOs....

The Sov holder should not have any ability to deny people access to planets unless its by means of sheer brute force of spaceboats.

So I'm gonna go with a -1 here.


Says a guy from an empire based industrial alliance that holds no Sov. Well, your opinion on Sov space is surely valid...
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Stark_Enterprises
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=6220

And you clearly misunderstand, because with the current system, access is already denined to everyone except the sov holder. Aka "sheer brute force of spaceboats" as you put it. Next time do your research before you run your mouth on a subject you have no firsthand expereince with.


The ignorance in that response is amusing.

And 6 whole likes... for a 2 year old.

Awesome.

Clearly nobody cares what you think.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#14 - 2012-06-08 05:51:49 UTC
Dex Nederland wrote:
While I was the last one to post; I thought of another thing related to PI & Null-Sec that could be beneficial

Introduce a mechanism by which PI projects (perhaps tied to value exported) impacts the Industrial Index of a system.

Also another Industrial Array could be added which impacts PI.


Might want to have a look at this topic:


Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Inquisitor Tyr
VEN0M0US.
Out of the Blue.
#15 - 2012-06-09 00:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Inquisitor Tyr
TLDR. Feel free to pull out the tidbits from that that are relevant to this threads topic. The key here being nullsec planet access. Youngsters these days have no attention span. "stay on topic class".