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POS's Flogging the Dead Horse

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#81 - 2012-03-05 21:52:41 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
+1 for the thread and thanks for keeping it alive.

One side thought, with the advent these new Fuel Blocks, now towers have a fixed consumption rate, no matter if the only thing online is a Corp Hanger or in full manufacture/death star mode.

I believe this is an error that should be addressed.


wait, there's a mode other than full-tilt MFG or deathstar (or dickstar, etc)

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tekota
The Freighter Factory
#82 - 2012-03-06 11:20:06 UTC
+1 for the most consistently requested and near universally favoured feature in the last six years.

A few of the things that have happened in the last six years:

The Arab Spring
Japanese earthquake/tsunami
Death of Osama Bin Laden
Global financial collapse
End of the space shuttle program
The Occupy Protests
World population reaching 7 billion

Australian floods
Haitian earthquake
Vancouver Winter Olympics
Eyjafjallajökull volcano
Deepwater Horizon oil spill
Swine flu
Wikileaks
Antimatter first contained
33 miners trapped in Chilean mine for 69 days
Apple releases iPad

Australian bushfires
North Korean nuclear tests
Death of Michael Jackson
Mass discoveries of exoplanets

European Space Agency ATV first launched
Cyclone Nargis hits Burma
Sichuan earthquake
Bill Gates steps down from day to day duties at Microsoft
Radovan Karadžić arrested
South Ossetia War
Beijing Olympics
Large Hadron Collider at Cern fired up for first time
SpaceX Falcon 1, first privately owned spaceship to make orbit
India launches it's first lunar probe
Mumbai terrorist attacks
Bernie Madoff arrested
Death of Arthur C Clarke

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann
Final Harry Potter book released
Live Earth concerts held around the world
Benazir Bhutto assasinated
Death of Evel Knievel
Apple releases first iPhone

Turin Winter Olympics
Bird flu
Last chromosome sequenced by the Human Genome Project
Lebanon-Israeli War
Pluto reclassified, no longer the 9th planet in the solar system
An ex-Iraqi president whose name triggers the profanity filter was executed
Steve Irwin killed by stingray


Iceland has had three seperate Prime Ministers
Australia has had three seperate Prime Ministers
UK has had three seperate Prime Ministers
USA has had two seperate Presidents


...and a dead horse has been continuously flogged without interruption.
Zaotome
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2012-03-06 13:19:38 UTC
+1 to the dead horse
alternatively CCP could tell us something about their ideas how to adress the problems with the current pos-system...
Velicitia
XS Tech
#84 - 2012-03-06 13:46:30 UTC
Eyjafjallajökull volcano <-- CCP was probably to blame here Blink

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2012-03-06 14:37:41 UTC
Wow, how did I not see this thread until now?

Big +1 here!

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#86 - 2012-03-06 14:58:50 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
Dont see whats so hard about implementing player created ranks

player creates rank

player adds list of available roles to rank

player names the rank

assigns players to that rank


Title assigned roles.

Look into it.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#87 - 2012-03-06 15:17:02 UTC
+1 for this idea - long overdue and will improve the Eve experience

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Timbuck V
Breizh Punisher's
#88 - 2012-03-07 09:06:58 UTC
+1 to this great idea, "entêtons nous"
Keep on flogging,the dev, sorry the dead horse.
Amun Khonsu
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#89 - 2012-03-07 09:36:12 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
This flogging thing seems to be good (at least regarding POS), so please do not stop!

Do not hold back your comments.



This idea is superb! It is long overdue and something I included in my feedback form to CCP after the release of Crucible.

Make it so!

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-03-07 16:48:59 UTC
the saddest thing is i read the original flogging thread three years ago, and it had already been flogged for three years before that.

seriously new noob ships? who is asking for that crap?

why is this not a higher priority ?

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
De Guillaume
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#91 - 2012-03-07 18:25:39 UTC
This is a great idea plain and simple. It needs some fixing but the core is sound.

Poses currently are a total waste of space and more of a burden than a total benefit

+1000000848343434

Has you ever went so far as chose to go even use want to look more like do?
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
#92 - 2012-03-08 08:21:29 UTC
My turn to flog the dead horse.

I'm not getting much enjoyment out of it. It's just bones shifting about all over the place as I flog it.

But flog it I must, to keep this thread alive.
Carmizan
Lords of Maelstrom
#93 - 2012-03-08 11:23:06 UTC
Kusum Fawn wrote:
the saddest thing is i read the original flogging thread three years ago, and it had already been flogged for three years before that.

seriously new noob ships? who is asking for that crap?

why is this not a higher priority ?


All of us that have been promoted this thread from the start have been asking the same question.

Really the only thing we want and need from the dev team at CCP is a simple answer to a simple question.

Are you going to implement this idea and if so when?
oh and if not why not?

Every Dev that has posted on this thread and the orginal one has said basically that it is a good idea, but none of them can or will tell us what is going on. I start to think that they do not want to touch the POS and hope that we will get bored of keeping this thread alive.

SO i say to CCP give us an answer.
Carmizan
Lords of Maelstrom
#94 - 2012-03-13 11:00:11 UTC
Unashamed bump for this great idea and still no answer
Velicitia
XS Tech
#95 - 2012-03-13 12:21:37 UTC
Carmizan wrote:
Unashamed bump for this great idea and still no answer


Keep in mind that they were posting pre-incarna... they were forced into implementing ****** things (Incarna, Nex store) rather than cool things (fixed POS, new modules, new ships, rebalanced stuffs).

With Crucible, and the upcoming Inferno expansions ... it really looks like they're getting the right idea again (or at least understanding some of the mistakes they've made). So, perhaps they cannot poast because they'll give away the "big" thing for the expansion -- I mean, they already fixed fueling the damn things...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-03-13 18:57:02 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Carmizan wrote:
Unashamed bump for this great idea and still no answer


Keep in mind that they were posting pre-incarna... they were forced into implementing ****** things (Incarna, Nex store) rather than cool things (fixed POS, new modules, new ships, rebalanced stuffs).

With Crucible, and the upcoming Inferno expansions ... it really looks like they're getting the right idea again (or at least understanding some of the mistakes they've made). So, perhaps they cannot post because they'll give away the "big" thing for the expansion -- I mean, they already fixed fueling the damn things...



As much as i want you to be right, the odds are so heavy against this that its not funny. not anymore, not after all these years.

[/i]years[/i ]

While its true that CCP seems to be turning a new leaf in its customer relations departments. its also still true that some things that are bad and recognized continually to be bad. are still bad with no feedback by the people who can fix them.

even the engagement of a conversation in the hypothetical would be a welcomes and extremely useful discourse, so that players could learn about some of the issues blocking this and ccp could better understand what exactly are the problems that need to be addressed.

as to fuel blocks. im not really sure how its a fix. fuel supply is a longer chain now. its only the fuel dump to pos thats easier, everything before that is harder. oh and remember while they were "fixing" it ? lack of communication between CCP and players, (and it seems to a certain extent between CCP personnel) made the entire situation a lot worse then it should have been. considering all the ramp up to it.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#97 - 2012-03-13 19:15:05 UTC
Agreed, it's ccp we're talking about, and communication isn't exactly a strong suit of theirs ... however, with that said, they have been doing things well since crucible (or at least "well" compared to prior to that). It'll take time, but they're at least putting on the facade of trying.

also, forgot "soon(tm)" in my earlier post. Place where appropriate Smile

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Zombo Brian
Doomheim
#98 - 2012-03-13 19:24:20 UTC
+9001, sounds incredible, and makes the pos actually look like something
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#99 - 2012-03-13 23:04:00 UTC
Why?

Why has this not been done, or at least something like this?

I remember this thread had been on the first page of the features and ideas on the old forums for months, or was it even years? And here it is again, back and with just as much support as before

CCP this idea is so blatantly supported by so many players, WHY have you not re-designed the POS system? What's your excuse?

Incarna? Please, I'd rather see WiS abandoned and removed than have resources taken away from improving the space part of our Space game.

New expansions? barf... what have you added? Faction warfare?, lame. Incursions?... ULTRA lame. For how much money you Icelandic trolls make off this game you need to start putting your time and effort into what the PLAYERS want.

Sometimes EVE makes me so mad I could quit, but I won't... for the sparse hope that one day, maybe just maybe, CCP will make EVE a good game.

The UI update we deserve
Carmizan
Lords of Maelstrom
#100 - 2012-03-14 08:11:17 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Carmizan wrote:
Unashamed bump for this great idea and still no answer


Keep in mind that they were posting pre-incarna... they were forced into implementing ****** things (Incarna, Nex store) rather than cool things (fixed POS, new modules, new ships, rebalanced stuffs).

With Crucible, and the upcoming Inferno expansions ... it really looks like they're getting the right idea again (or at least understanding some of the mistakes they've made). So, perhaps they cannot poast because they'll give away the "big" thing for the expansion -- I mean, they already fixed fueling the damn things...


While i understand please note that this idea has been around since 2008, and nearly ever conceivable idea has been brought up in that thread, but still there has been no definitive answer from the Devs. They keep trying to encourage more ideas, but no yes, no or we tried and can not do it.

Oh and as to fuel blocks they even got that wrong. They stated that you would be able to load a months worth of fuel in the pos. Well i am sorry but less than 30 days is not a month.

Plus we are not asking for a the Devs for an exact date on implementation (though after 4 years I think we should). We are asking for answer from them as to whether or not they are looking at this with a view to adding it to the game. Surely that is not alot to ask from these guys.

Hell they nerf modules left right and centre after one thread with 2 pages of post crying that they are overpowered, but a thread that has been going for 4 years is ignored.

This is the act of a company that says they listen to their customers.