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If I were CCP Zulu, I would have written this dev blog...

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Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#1 - 2011-09-23 00:04:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pattern Clarc
The moments that define history.

Hello New Eden.

Over the last several weeks we've been listening. We've been listening to the CSM, we've been listening to the greater player base, and we have also been listening to ourselves. For the last 24 months, we have over leveraged the resources we used to use to make the Eve you love great; to produce an Eve we hoped others would love too.

And although we stand by our decision to do this, it has admittedly taken us longer to do, and has cost us more good will than had been planned.

We have learnt a lot from this process:

From now on we will have a reliable cycle of development featuring the Tick and the Tock

Excell/Photoshop Graphics Awesomeness number 1 (because PICS OR STFU/IT DIDN'T HAPPEN) (but no really, the best way to communicate is with a mixture of mediums)

That chart shows how we will develop from this point forward. We will have 2 major expansions every year, each with a different focus. The Winter expansion, AKA the "Tick", is when we will introduce new stuff into the game (like wormwholes and new game mechanics) that refresh and invigorate the experiences of players new and old. This doesn't mean that during these expansions we will completely halt development on iterating new features or WiS however:

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The above shows a rough split in terms of the impact the features we will deliver during Winter expansions. You may say "wait a minute.... why are you making new stuff when there's so many things to fix..." - Well the reality is that the expansions players all say were the best, were the ones where we introduced fundamental changes and additions to the way players play the game. Apocrypha with wormholes and Tech 3 was a prime example. However we also recognise upgrading and building upon many of things we've also introduced shouldn't be ignored...


And that will be precisely the focus of the "Tock", or the Summer Expansion. Here we will focus on upgrading and iterating on features we have already laid the foundations to and although balancing and bug fixes can and will happen throughout the year, the Summer expansions will receive an extra dose of them in the future.
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*Please note that relatively trivial, though important things can consume disproportionate amounts of developer resources and although we will be constantly looking at the potential impact to the game new features provide, we will not skirt from such things if they can provide meaningful improvements to players. (EG GALLENTE PLEASURE HUBS AND SHIP SPINNING.)


I'm really excited about our shift in focus, and I hope in the next few weeks, with all the cool stuff we're going to be talking about and showing you, you will be too...

More importantly, we want to show you that we have really learnt, and we have listened because Eve is coming back baby...

....Yeaaaah!

Arnar Hrafn Gylfason
Senior Producer of EVE Online









Essentially, what we wanted to read was some plan, a vision, something that merged the very best of what everyone wanted. Because beyond :18months:, we really don't know where eve is going, or how it will get there, and we're demoralised and nearing the point outrage exhaustion, which is one step away from not caring at all.

Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-09-23 00:10:13 UTC
can I have same stuff what you have been...

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Zagdul
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-09-23 00:10:25 UTC
Fire Zulu, hire this dude.

Dual Pane idea: Click!

CCP Please Implement

Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#4 - 2011-09-23 00:26:25 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Fire Zulu, hire this dude.


Being a game dev isn't about just writing epic blogs, but it's just maddening sometimes when they are unable to form the words, backed by the actions, that would make you and I collectively **** in our boxers. Cry

Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#5 - 2011-09-23 01:41:18 UTC
Though with their switch to gradual rollout rather than big-bang rollout, the Tick and Tock would actually be regions on the graph, not single events.

Thus the "Tick" would be a (short) series of small red arrows, the "Tock" would be a (longer) series of small blue arrows, and there would be no green arrows because all the releases include necessary bug fixes and balance changes.
Lord Helghast
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-09-23 01:44:17 UTC
+1000000 * infinity to this post
London
Center for Advanced Studies
#7 - 2011-09-23 02:14:16 UTC
Jeeze, give them time. It must take a lot of effort for such a massive company to have such a shift in direction... They're essentially giving you (or about to..) give you want you want, and your still complaining... FFS

:P

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#8 - 2011-09-23 02:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
Pattern Clarc wrote:
Epic!


This!

London wrote:
Jeeze, give them time. It must take a lot of effort for such a massive company to have such a shift in direction... They're essentially giving you (or about to..) give you want you want, and your still complaining... FFS

:P



you have to admit though pattern clarc should be ccp editor in chief... his job would be taking devs ideas for blogs and writing them for them...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

London
Center for Advanced Studies
#9 - 2011-09-23 02:25:42 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:

you have to admit though pattern clarc should be ccp editor in chief... his job would be taking devs ideas for blogs and writing them for them...


I'm sure we'll see something good, it's only been positive things coming out recently.

Esperio Ferver
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-09-23 02:40:23 UTC
Well the Tick Tock strategy did work out for Intel.

Overall that approach does seem to fit well for large scale tech development, which in a way Eve is.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#11 - 2011-09-23 02:47:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
Iam honestly waiting to see what type of shift they plan on doing. It is nice to see that CCP does finally somewhat "get it" and are refocusing priorities. At least thats what it seems to be. When it comes to the staggered rollout, big bang, tick tock systems its really hard to say which one is better from all perspectives. Tick tock to me seems like a good middle ground between staggered and big bang releases. The bad thing about the current system is that a staggered rollout is suppose to reduce bugs, or time it takes to fix bugs. However there is still constant patching, and bugs that go unchecked which shows the system isn't that great.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#12 - 2011-09-23 03:03:53 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Pattern Clarc wrote:
Epic!


you have to admit though pattern clarc should be ccp editor in chief... his job would be taking devs ideas for blogs and writing them for them...

dyslexia and :words: are a bad mix as proven by the op tbh. Oops

Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#13 - 2011-09-23 03:11:20 UTC
Anyone who doesn't realize the devblog is a result of an internal struggle hasn't been paying attention.

Nyan

Major Stallion
i love you nam
#14 - 2011-09-23 04:09:01 UTC
surprised the OP wasnt loaded with "WHERE IS MY GOD DAMN TORNADO!?!?!?"
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-09-23 08:15:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Zagdul wrote:
Fire Zulu, hire this dude.




this.


+1 like, which is one thing I don't give much tbhP

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-09-23 08:24:30 UTC
Epic blog +1

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-09-23 08:30:33 UTC
Pattern Clarc wrote:
Essentially, what we wanted to read was some plan, a vision, something that merged the very best of what everyone wanted. Because beyond :18months:, we really don't know where eve is going, or how it will get there, and we're demoralised and nearing the point outrage exhaustion, which is one step away from not caring at all.

Are you a dinosaur???
Froz3nEcho Sarain
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-09-23 08:38:07 UTC
Jezus Christ people are still whining about this? Sure everyone could write a good blog MONTHS after that situation ended because an international company like CCP probably don't have people for communication right?

@CCP stop with the dev blogs and then suddenly release an awesome patch without notice. That will shut them up.

[i]~ When everything fades away, an echo is the only sound that will remain ~   ~ Chaos is a name for any order that produces confusion in our minds ~[/i]

mkint
#19 - 2011-09-23 08:41:49 UTC
Froz3nEcho Sarain wrote:

@CCP stop with the dev blogs and then suddenly release an awesome patch without notice. That will shut them up.

What makes you think they are capable of this? What in their recent history gives any indication they are capable of putting together game mechanics that don't screw over huge portions of their customer base? What part of the last few years makes you think CCP is capable of operating intelligently without babysitters (a la the CSM at least)?

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#20 - 2011-09-23 09:56:08 UTC
London wrote:
Jeeze, give them time. It must take a lot of effort for such a massive company to have such a shift in direction... They're essentially giving you (or about to..) give you want you want, and your still complaining... FFS

:P



They're not that "massive" a company, and they've had well over a year to shift direction.

How much more time should they be allowed?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

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