Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Player Owned Power Gates (POPG) is a proposal to create in EVE a new limited class of commercial jump gates built by, controlled by, and defended by players in or out of Sov controlled Null & Empire space, with the ability to transport non-combat transport ships, exhumers, capital industrial ships, industrial command ships, jump freighters, and freighters up to five (5) systems, or in the case of unclaimed Null or Sov Null space, to the nearest NPC system in a single jump. The ability to use the POPG would be restricted to non-combat transport ships, exhumers, capital industrial ships, industrial command ships, jump freighters, and freighters exclusively.

The POPG would be susceptible to destruction much the same as a POS or POCO is currently, like a POS the POPG would have the capability to support weapons batteries and a force field twice as strong as those supplied on a large POS, as well as up to thirty (30) days of race specific fuel blocks. The cost of operations of a POPG should scale similarly to a medium POS with the added use of fuel blocks to power each jump provided by the user of the POPG along with a player set fee. The cost to construct a POPG should be set to ten percent (10%), to fifteen percent (15%) higher then the cost of a jump bridge. A POPG can only operate once every three (3) minutes. Ships can wait inside the force field until their turn to jump. All jumps can be powered by any racial fuel block, supplied in sufficient number. The POPG will have an interface outside of the force field modeled after a customs office where players would submit their transit charge and fuel blocks prior to being admitted to the force field surrounding the POPG.

Unlike standard jump gates the POPG would send each ship it transports to a different random location within the target system with no prior chance for the pilot to know exactly where he will end up, which in many systems will be extremely hazardous.

To withstand the force of a power gate jump, transport ships, exhumers, capital industrial ships, an industrial command ships would require a new module made from original blueprints provided by agents that will drop randomly in level III and up mining and distribution missions exclusively, as frequently as storyline missions currently occur. Transport ships, exhumers, capital industrial ships, industrial command ships, jump freighters, and freighter pilots would have to train an additional skill to use a POPG, the POPG skill-book would also drop randomly in level III and up mining and distribution missions as frequently as storyline missions currently occur. The original blueprints to build a POPG shall be awarded by level II an up agents of mining and distribution missions with one half (1/2) the frequency that storyline missions currently occur.

POPG will be able to jump ships up or down one level in security zone status subject to a 15 minute cool down upon arrival, IE a null sec POPG could transport a ship to a NPC low sec five systems away in one shot, the pilot could then navigate to the nearest low sec POPG using conventional means, however he would not be allowed to enter the force field to make a jump from low sec to high sec or back to null sec until a fifteen (15) minute cool down period expires, any additional POPG jumps within the target sec system status one up or one down from the point of origin could be accomplished immediately. If for any reason after entering the force field you cancel your jump you will not receive a refund of the fees charged or the fuel paid.

The fuel block cost to jump a ship thru a POPG should be equivalent to the fuel cost of using a jump capable ship of similar size and tonnage, this is not intended to in any way circumvent the use of jump freighters, many of whom will naturally become the first users of POPG. A POPG can be anchored anywhere within a system and is not limited to being anchored to a moon like a POS, additionally one POS can anchor within ten thousand kilometers (10,000km) of any POPG. In high sec a POPG can only be anchored in .5 to .7 space subject to the same provisions of a POS regarding charters and standings for anchoring. Players can restrict the use of and set the fees charged by their POPG.

This is a first draft and a compilation of several other players input and ideas i was merely tasked with putting it together and posting it. All constructive comments are welcome.

Power To The Players!

That isn't really dangerous :/

Jump through, log off. Warp around safes, make sure system is empty before you jump etc. Sounds like what you really want is a way to completely avoid bubbles and gate camps.

Nalha thank you for reading the thread ..... The POPG has two (2) primary purposes, #1 to save time and expedite transit for some of the slowest lumbering ships in the game, and #2 put control of gate placement and the profit potential therefrom in the hands of players!

It is meant to be a faster route to serve trade and commerce like a toll road or railroad lines. I am pleased that this collaborative effort resulted in an idea that also places control of the new limited class of jump gates in the hands of players for both creation and destruction.

Power To The Players!

I AM one of your fellow players who has been employed in the honest profession of piracy. I also have max scanning skills, a set of virtues and a combat record that would make anyone in an industrial weep in terror and refuse to undock for the remainder of their painful, short existence in Eve.

And I am telling you, other than orcas or freighters, no ship can be scanned down and warped to in the time it takes for them to align out.

Even for orcas and freighters, they could easily just log off once they arrive. No way in hell are you going to scan them down and warp to them in the <1 minute it takes for them to disappear.

POWER TO THE MOFOING PIRATES.

Let me see:

- Game Breaking (Check)
- Ridiculously Overpowered (Check)
- Equally Ridiculous suggestion to make it "balanced" (Check)
- Utterly Pointless (Check)

All the hallmarks of a truly awful idea. Thank you for taking the time to suggest it.

Five out of five replies telling you this idea sucks.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

I like the idea. At first I was surprised Temba's poor attempt at humour was lost on you. But having read some of your threads you are clearly clueless so it's not surprising you don't recognise a joke, being one and all.

In the conversation that was had concerning this idea many different perspectives were taken into account.

It is of note that you get you normal online forum epeen warriors to just say no for some attention to themselves with no real

reason or counter argument to increase the ability of the idea or to even dismantle it in a through way giving good counter ideas.

(1) If it would over power and create to much chaos in 0.0 and low sec regions limit the ability to high sec only.

(2) Given that players moving from one major hub to another are probably going to be popping in the same target systems within range would finding those systems be that hard to do.

(3) The cost for using this would not be cheap and as stated these setups can be war decced and destroyed like all other pieces Pos equipment

(4) The need for a module for anything other then freighters to use this mode of travel does add to the depth of character sp and the higher the skill level may reduce the fuel needed to operate the system.

(5) Characters would have the ability to either make there POPG available to the public at a fee set by them or keep them as private only.

(6) You have to pay a fee to transport to any npc controlled space and that fee would be in direct rating to your person faction standing. Less = more isk More standing = less isk.

(7) You can only place the pos if your corp has standing in the first place no npc corp person could build one.

These are some ideas to mull over concerning this and the OP is being very non troll like and is serious when he does consider anything said to be a tool to be put in place to alter the idea.

Try to be less negative in your personal HTFU world of eve.. Take off the sociopathic forum troll cloak.. Try to say something constructive and help form it.. Anybody can break something.. takes real skill to make things.

+1 Finally a proposal every EVE smuggler can support. I am for being able to deliver significant volumes of boosters to high security space without a customs check. About time somebody fixed that so more high security PVE players can use boosters and yes with this in place I would be happy to keep you supplied.

a private jump gate to Care-a-lot...FAIL. why not just give badgers cyno drives or make a region for indy's only. two thumbs down