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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#21 - 2012-03-08 01:52:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinu Moorhsum
N3oXr2ii wrote:
fragh warping needs to be nerfed

i keep missing out on kills and billions in loot because of it

are cloaky haulers and recons not engough

i will emo rage quit if its not fixed in the next patch

-567 accts


Fit another smartbomb.

Last time I was in Rancer I pod-killed myself to a station there because I needed to go to Jita in a hurry.... Upgraded my clone, jumped in a noob-ship, warped to the gate and landed right back in the station again.... LOL :)

Ended up having to go around via Otou, which was a pain in the butt because I really was in a hurry.

Anyway... just fit another smartbomb and you'll make your mom proud.

... and it's "grammar" With AR at the end. :)

T-
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#22 - 2012-03-08 03:45:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
I thought I knew the terminology for everything in this game, but fragh warping is a new one. How does one utilize fragh warping to earn billions in loot, or deprive someone of loot, or whatever this thread is about?

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Aggressive Nutmeg
#23 - 2012-03-08 05:46:30 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
i love camping haulesr n killing nub ships and shuttles just like you to point out peopels spelling and grammer

you hate what i do and i think your a geeky ******

why would i be mad i trolled you and succedded

you clearly can read and are well educated

so u know that nobody really posts in c&p to whine about something they will get set on fire and using uber 1337 haxor pr0 bro wat dis liek etc is great fromn trolling
think garmon


Oh, you just overloaded my Spelling and Grammar Compensation Amplifier II.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Osvaldr Adridian
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-03-08 06:13:23 UTC
wtf is frag warping?

http://i.imgur.com/wGQin.jpg
Dorn Val
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-03-08 07:45:30 UTC
Osvaldr Adridian wrote:
wtf is frag warping?


I think he's referring to the micro warp drive + cloak trick (click on MWD then immediately cloak / you'll get one cycle of the MWD even though you are cloaked / as soon as the MWD cycle ends uncloak and spam warp / since you'll be traveling faster than 75% of your base speed you'll insta warp).

Even the Devs have recommended the MWD + cloak trick for avoiding gate camps, so clearly not an exploit.

Of course I could be completely wrong, since I barely understood the OP. Mountain Dew + Meth = bad....

Taking advantage of game mechanics to score easy kills and then complaining when someone else takes advantage of game mechanics to avoid being killed. If the OP is our future then we have none...

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2012-03-08 08:18:57 UTC
Since there are still ways to get the guy by burning in his direction with a fast ship I do not see a big problem. Every side has a fair chance to be successful.

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Molette Nolm
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-03-08 09:03:31 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Since there are still ways to get the guy by burning in his direction with a fast ship I do not see a big problem. Every side has a fair chance to be successful.



I agree. There gotta be a oppertunity to pass the never ending gatecampers somehow and i think the system works well so far regarding that. Nothing should be changed here imo.

Anyway if your a skilled player in nav skills you can sometimes with a fast mwd pulse decloak and tackle the blockade runners still. Requires instant lock too and depends on the skill lvl of the pilot of the hauler.
rudeboi rev
the united
#28 - 2012-03-08 12:48:44 UTC  |  Edited by: rudeboi rev
Molette Nolm wrote:
I agree. There gotta be a oppertunity to pass the never ending gatecampers somehow and i think the system works well so far regarding that. Nothing should be changed here imo.

There is this opportunity not to travel through lowsec shortcut pockets, called "the long bus".
In fact, there's this usefull option called "Autopilot Settings", which allows a player to specify the type of route they want to fly.
Next to that, Eve is consistent of these wonderfull areas called systems, they connect to eachother, but via multiple routes.

In short, you do not have to travel through the system talked about, it's a players' own choice to do so, which results in the risk of gettin punked by pirates.

Molette Nolm wrote:
Anyway if your a skilled player in nav skills you can sometimes with a fast mwd pulse decloak and tackle the blockade runners still. Requires instant lock too and depends on the skill lvl of the pilot of the hauler.

In some occasions this might work, though the fastest and most mobile ships are usually frigate class ships.
When you're a -10 player, it's not a great idea to try this tactic without some kind of support. (gate guns blap you fast)
(which is just the pirates' (also my) problem, a cov-ops ship should be able to gtfo if the player doesn't herp by mistake)

BUT, neo is talking about vessels which are not intended to be able to be assigned the role of a cov-ops ship.
I agree on his point about this unrealistic type of movement, which, in my opinion, is just not how it 'should' work.
Eve even has modules available to take your not-intended-to-cloak spacevessel and still have a fair change of getting tfo.
- warp core stabs
- inertia mods
- nanos
- rigs

IMO: if you choose to take the risky route, there should be risk involved (more than using the frag-warp trick).
Using the frag-warp trick properly should always result in a deffinate gettaway.
Which, again in my most humble opinion, must mean there actually is something wrong with this tactic / mechanic.

Do i have hopes CCP will ever 'fix' this game mechanic explained to us as "working as intended"? No, not even..

So, why do you take your time to even answer to this post then..?
Simple, the amount of forumswarriors here trying to whine about grammar and ignoring the actual 'issue', forced me to reply.

I find it amusing. Seriously.. Try to stick to the topic, trolls don't work so well on here. It makes me laugh..

<3 neo (ur grammar does suck though ;p)

Pirate
Fragwit
Tellurian Works
#29 - 2012-03-08 13:30:32 UTC
Osvaldr Adridian wrote:
wtf is frag warping?



It's what I do to get around the eve universe.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-03-08 14:26:54 UTC
this thread drips massive amounts of RAEG.

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Sutskop
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-03-08 14:55:43 UTC
If you cannot decloak a fat ass aligning ship within the 10 seconds of the mwd cycle please gtfo of my lowsec kthx.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#32 - 2012-03-08 15:19:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tallian Saotome
Sutskop wrote:
If you cannot decloak a fat ass aligning ship within the 10 seconds of the mwd cycle please gtfo of my lowsec kthx.

Maybe they should come to null where they can use bubbles... Put 40-50 of them on a gate and all the Cloaked MWD in the world won't let you warp.

Of course then they have to deal with nullsec entities breaking their camp, and that means actually risking something Cool

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#33 - 2012-03-08 23:05:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarryn Nightstorm
Oh look, leaky United-babby is having a bloo-bloo.

Oh, and non CovOps vessels are not intended to use CovOps-cloaks due to fitting restrictions (it uses base 10,000tf CPU, which role-boni on CovOps ships reduce to useable levels).

They are intended to use regular cloaks, else they wouldn't be able to fit them, no? And they get major restrictions as a result of fitting them.

For all others ITT:

How to ***-warp--this is by no means infallible, make sure to practise in hisec with every ship you use.

Gate-camps are what are arguably over-powered in this bad game, evading them given their nature is not.

E: Learn how to de-cloak, fail-campers. It's not that hard.

E2: Because ***-warping is fun!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#34 - 2012-03-08 23:15:37 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
i love camping haulesr n killing nub ships and shuttles just like you to point out peopels spelling and grammer

you hate what i do and i think your a geeky ******

why would i be mad i trolled you and succedded

you clearly can read and are well educated

so u know that nobody really posts in c&p to whine about something they will get set on fire and using uber 1337 haxor pr0 bro wat dis liek etc is great fromn trolling
think garmon



Wow...just...bloody Hell!

I don't even know where to start with this, are you really that much of a scrub?

Please say you're just trolling everyone, and we all fell for it?

If that's the case, then seriously: Well-done, 9/10! (The 10/10 is not achievable by mere mortals, it's a theoretical absolute.)


Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#35 - 2012-03-10 12:12:43 UTC
rudeboi rev wrote:


I find it amusing. Seriously.. Try to stick to the topic, trolls don't work so well on here. It makes me laugh..

<3 neo (ur grammar does suck though ;p)

Pirate


Maybe I"m missing the point or why it's such a problem for you. You guys are the easiest pirates in Eve to find. 98% of the time you can be found in Rancer within 10km of the Crielere gate... smartbombs on... bellies sticking out from under your soiled T-shirts and beer in hand....

One does not need a cov ops to find you or get a warp in. The warp in is a celestial that can be seen from anywhere in the system.

Or am I missing something?

T-
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#36 - 2012-03-10 13:21:26 UTC
I would like to here the OP's version of what a fragh warp is.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-03-11 06:15:24 UTC
I think they should nerf warping in general. It is annoying when the baddies warp away because them warping away deprives me of billions of ISK from potential loot and should be considered an exploit. Pointing them is also just too hard.

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Im Super Gay
Investtan Inc.
The Republic.
#38 - 2012-03-11 07:05:10 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:

bellies sticking out from under your soiled T-shirts and beer in hand....

You've just described 3/4 of the eve community fyi...
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards
#39 - 2012-03-11 07:52:38 UTC
N3oXr2ii wrote:
how daer they ruine my day wen i was clerly to ruin thiers


Straight

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DeMoraatz
#40 - 2012-03-11 10:25:44 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
[quote=N3oXr2ii]fragh warping needs to be nerfed
i will emo rage quit if its not fixed in the next patch

-567 accts

Lol, You guys got trolled. Lol
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