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Taking down a Dominix and other battleships
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Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-03-08 07:28:50 UTC
Just be careful if approaching a Domi in an Angels mission or in Damsel in Distress... There is every possibility you will walk straight into a full rack of heavy Blasters...
Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-03-08 07:42:44 UTC
Drone baiting no longer works in hi-sec?
(Looting so his drones shoot you then CONCORDokken)

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-03-08 07:47:44 UTC
These days many mission runners have Auto Target Back set to zero and drones set to Passive though you will find some AFK runners with drones on Aggressive. If I have my drones on Aggressive due to being in a Guristas mission with jamming, the FIRST thing I will do if I see probes or another ship is set to Passive.
welsh wizard
Celestial Fish Inc.
#24 - 2012-03-08 08:55:48 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:


Holy ****. Welcome back man, it is great to see you. Shoot me an evemail if you need catching up.

-Liang


Thanks Liang, it's good to be back. Clearly a hell of a lot has changed so I'm hugging empire until I've re-learnt the ropes. Good to see the Caldari frigs getting some love though. I've already bought a few Harpys and Hawks! Not sure the Crow is up to much these days though. :/
Marcus Alkhaar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-03-08 09:30:46 UTC
welsh wizard wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:


Holy ****. Welcome back man, it is great to see you. Shoot me an evemail if you need catching up.

-Liang


Thanks Liang, it's good to be back. Clearly a hell of a lot has changed so I'm hugging empire until I've re-learnt the ropes. Good to see the Caldari frigs getting some love though. I've already bought a few Harpys and Hawks! Not sure the Crow is up to much these days though. :/


WHAAAAAT UUUPPP! WELSH!!!!!! Long time No see.

If you need isk, just eve-mail me a number.


Steamcat - the easiest way to kill a mission runner is to jump into a frigate(imicus with probes!), scan down their fat battleships (level 2 and 3 skills will do) go loot their cans, get them to agress your imicus and then swap into a dominix with 3x egress port maximizer rigs so you can run your neuts permanently when you warp back to his mission.

3x heavy energy neutralizer
3x medium energy neutralizer

mwd
Sensor booster (must have!)
warp disruptor
Heavy capacitor booster
webifier / medium cap booster / webifier / second warp disruptor / sensor booster

3x 1600mm plates
2x energized adaptive nano membranes
1x damage control
1x Armor explosive hardener



I'm 100% positive that a myrmiddon cannot do the same thing as I usually ended up with 20-30% armor after a fight. the myrmiddon cannot neut the target fast enough, nor does it have enough hitpoints to withstand the usual mission runner
Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-03-08 10:00:03 UTC
Darthewok wrote:
Drone baiting no longer works in hi-sec?
(Looting so his drones shoot you then CONCORDokken)


I would actually be interested in knowing what settings control the aggro mechanic in these situations.

If the mission runner is stupid enough to shoot back at a bait ship, fair enough, but are there any settings that will cause the mission runner's drones to auto-shoot the bait ship?
welsh wizard
Celestial Fish Inc.
#27 - 2012-03-08 13:04:55 UTC
Marcus Alkhaar wrote:
welsh wizard wrote:
Liang Nuren wrote:


Holy ****. Welcome back man, it is great to see you. Shoot me an evemail if you need catching up.

-Liang


Thanks Liang, it's good to be back. Clearly a hell of a lot has changed so I'm hugging empire until I've re-learnt the ropes. Good to see the Caldari frigs getting some love though. I've already bought a few Harpys and Hawks! Not sure the Crow is up to much these days though. :/


WHAAAAAT UUUPPP! WELSH!!!!!! Long time No see.

If you need isk, just eve-mail me a number.


Steamcat - the easiest way to kill a mission runner is to jump into a frigate(imicus with probes!), scan down their fat battleships (level 2 and 3 skills will do) go loot their cans, get them to agress your imicus and then swap into a dominix with 3x egress port maximizer rigs so you can run your neuts permanently when you warp back to his mission.

3x heavy energy neutralizer
3x medium energy neutralizer

mwd
Sensor booster (must have!)
warp disruptor
Heavy capacitor booster
webifier / medium cap booster / webifier / second warp disruptor / sensor booster

3x 1600mm plates
2x energized adaptive nano membranes
1x damage control
1x Armor explosive hardener



I'm 100% positive that a myrmiddon cannot do the same thing as I usually ended up with 20-30% armor after a fight. the myrmiddon cannot neut the target fast enough, nor does it have enough hitpoints to withstand the usual mission runner


(little finger in corner of mouth) 1 million isk!

Seriously though, thanks for the offer! Surprised you're still playing actually dude and its a good thing. Is Mech still playing?
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#28 - 2012-03-08 13:11:03 UTC
Drones will never aggress people for looting - if set to aggressive they only attack people who have performed a hostile action on your ship.
Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-03-08 13:17:12 UTC
Tamiya Sarossa wrote:
Drones will never aggress people for looting - if set to aggressive they only attack people who have performed a hostile action on your ship.


What about with autotarget on? Anyone tried recently?

CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
bldyannoyed
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-03-08 14:56:56 UTC
If you can drive one you could try a Scorp just for the comedic value.

You know he's in a Dominix and you know he won't have ECCM fitted. 3 jammers ought to do the trick, a few neuts in the high slots, some siege launchers, explosive torpedoes.

Just go in and jam him. His drones will already be out so auto aggro wont be a problem. Neut his tank off, add your own dps (which isn't as bad as you'd think when you throw drones in as well) and wait for the explosion. You could even fit a pair of smartbombs to make sure you get his pod if you're feeling particularly spiteful.
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#31 - 2012-03-08 20:18:21 UTC
People seem to assume that the guy in question:
a) doesn't read these forums
b) has to be at war with OP
c) if has any brains warps to station when war targets enter local
d) if no warp station in case of c) he's either stupid or it's A TRAP

Depending on skills a single rep domi tanks some 480dps rats / 280 omni or if it's a full dual repped "AFK-brick" somewhere around 1200dps rats / 530 omni
So a domi has an enormous explosive hole so you should exploit that all you can.

A full skilled flight of ogre II's do exactly 450 EFT dps when full skilled with gal BS V and perfect skills.

Also note that a brick domi has less room for guns then a single repped variant and a T1 fitted domi with poor skills actually tanks worse then a single T2 repped with skills, even when dual repped.
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