EVE General Discussion

From the Original Post - no. That was not complaining. However it WAS pushing a flawed idea that players live in high sec regions share certain interests. Eve players do not own homes. They have quarters in any station they dock at and a hanger to boot. There are those that are nomadic, following incursions or pvp. There are those that live in a region until someone comes along and pushes them out (null sec). Then there are people who DO stay in a region, but do different things - Mine, Mission, Industry, Scam in local (looking at Spaceship Barbie....). How could you ever expect a person to vote for a local candidate to represent them when location means NOTHING in eve, unlike in real life.

The reply I quote DID seem to imply a certain amount of QQ in the way it trys to respond to Mittens - "Yes yes, valid point, but you know high sec can't rally behind a candidate and most don't even know what the CSM is...It's not fair blah blah blah"

Never claimed where YOU live. But since you focused on Rens (which was high sec last time I checked), I used that as an example.
However, if I don't know where you live, is it safe to assume it is not near Rens? And therefore you just 'shop" there? And if so, then your proposal to tie voting to where you shop is really bad...

Serious question. Which zones or natural areas are those?

My understanding was that it is not an EVE System / Region; but a "natural" area or zone. E.g. something that could be larger / smaller than a CCP defined boundary.

Hence the question, smartarse. I find it is better to ask a question than carry on with a conversation remaining ignorant.

1) Your avatar looks just like a younger David Hasselhoff, so I'm not buying your claim of a lack of german decent for one red second.

2) Elected representatives go back to ancient Greece, not merely the 1800s.

3) I didn't bother looking at your blog because I'm blinded by your resemblance to David Hasselhoff.

CCP - please kill this folly and hire a first rate marketing firm.

What corporation in the top ten thousand corps in the world has a customer advisory council elected by the customers? Customer advisory board, yes, but never elected by the customers.

All at large candidates? You end up with one view point or all individual viewpoints - nothing representational of the voter base!

Please modernize your business practices - this is more like a neighborhood association and just as petty.

Please don't take my abstention as voter apathy, but a lack of variety among the candidates.

I want a game I can play, not a system in which I must be a political organizer to get a decent game put together - That is not how a great many of your customers want to spend their game time.

Please, hire a first rate marketing firm, have them produce quality customer surveys and let the customers fill them out periodically. Use your knowledge of your demographics to appeal to new customers and quality assurance questionaires to keep in touch with your existing customers. You could select a slate of candates at random and get input as valid as you will from any group of people who are there representing their own interests as any CSM panel will do.

Just remember, the only people they represent are the ones who voted, so if you get a ten percent turnout, the "winners" will be representing just over half of that number and even if it is a landslide with the winners taking every vote cast, they will still be representing only ten percent of your customers. Take every non-vote as a "none of the above" vote.

It ain't apathy, it's disgust.

Vyl, obviously you put some time and thought into your OP.

I'll give you props for that.

What everybody seems to be missing in these 'how to make things better' threads though, is that none of it matters. The CSM is a sham to placate and distract those who can be bothered to follow the politics of this game. CCP will do as they always have. Just exactly what they want.

What they are good at, nay superb at, is doing what they do and spinning it to make it seem as if it was the players decision.

For example: Mittens and his minions strutting around like they had some influence in CCP's decision to hold off on WIS. WIS was broken and rushed. CCP knew it and released just enough to **** people off. Then they did their little Icelandic summit and 'caved' to the wishes of the unwashed masses. Now they are everyone's darlings instead of a big bad game company pulling unfinished content promised for years.

This is how it's always been and how it always will be. The election is pointless. The CSM is pointless. People should just stop trying to figure out ways to fix it.

Mr Epeen