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I am Starting A petition For Eve To make a LINUX Client!
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Raziel Tyrael
Euphoria Released
#21 - 2012-03-05 21:24:23 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:
Raziel Tyrael wrote:

how about instead signing your silly petition we all give you 1 dollar so you can buy windows, might even get enough for new wooden pc?


You must be a genius, you are probably the first one that came up with this idea. After all we all just use Linux because we can not afford a Windows license.

Also i consider wine the superior Win32 implementation and support for it isn't asked that much. After all they support several implementations by microsoft that challenge each other for the title of the most broken OS.

BTW what are you doing in the EVE forums? Don't you have to fix uncle bob and his mums printer problems you windows genius?


1. I didn't say you can't afford, but somebody mention as a reason 100$, so if that is your only reason, would be easier to petition for 100$ then to do whole game for another operating system

2. I own both pc and mac, and no, I don't fix stuff for my relatives, if you do , then thats your problem, and I would like to see your uncle bob printing on linux

3. If majority of users are windows users, you can only expect windows versions of majority of software. yeah, windows are far from perfect, i have both windows and lionOS, and both have advantages, but this isn't one of those topic. all in all, to much effort and time would be needed to make linux client while there are many other issues which needs dev attention...
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-03-05 21:26:55 UTC
Frankly I don't care if CCP decided to start supporting Linux again or not but it seems rather silly for them to devote that many man hours and resources to the small fraction of people that play on Linux. They would need to be making enough money off of said fraction of players to make it worth spending money on the resources to develop a Linux client and maintain the support with each expansion. I understood this to be the reason they dropped Linux and even Mac support and I doubt that has changed much.

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Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#23 - 2012-03-06 00:40:33 UTC
Raziel Tyrael wrote:

2. I own both pc and mac, and no, I don't fix stuff for my relatives, if you do , then thats your problem, and I would like to see your uncle bob printing on linux


Well Linux has the same print facility MacOS has. Does it sucks to print with a Mac?

Raziel Tyrael wrote:

3. If majority of users are windows users, you can only expect windows versions of majority of software. yeah, windows are far from perfect, i have both windows and lionOS, and both have advantages, but this isn't one of those topic. all in all, to much effort and time would be needed to make linux client while there are many other issues which needs dev attention...


What some of us propose is the support of wine as a platform instead of a separate Mac, Linux and Windows client. Thats -1 client, so it would produce less effort for CCP. There would only be the Windows client (or Win32 client or whatever).
Also it already works for years it's just that it isn't officially supported.
Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-03-06 13:44:01 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:

What some of us propose is the support of wine as a platform instead of a separate Mac, Linux and Windows client. Thats -1 client, so it would produce less effort for CCP. There would only be the Windows client (or Win32 client or whatever).
Also it already works for years it's just that it isn't officially supported.


A Linux user with no idea how commercial software works? Well I never.
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#25 - 2012-03-06 14:51:35 UTC
Yeep wrote:
Karak Terrel wrote:

What some of us propose is the support of wine as a platform instead of a separate Mac, Linux and Windows client. Thats -1 client, so it would produce less effort for CCP. There would only be the Windows client (or Win32 client or whatever).
Also it already works for years it's just that it isn't officially supported.


A Linux user with no idea how commercial software works? Well I never.

A commercial software user with no idea how software development works?

Well I never!

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Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#26 - 2012-03-06 23:06:37 UTC
Yeep wrote:
A Linux user with no idea how commercial software works? Well I never.


This is... well we should probably applaud you for finding out how to write in the forums.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-03-06 23:53:01 UTC
Raziel Tyrael wrote:
2. I own both pc and mac, and no, I don't fix stuff for my relatives, if you do , then thats your problem, and I would like to see your uncle bob printing on linux



This alone condems your so called "experince" in Mac/Linux....walk away...before you embarass us with your pitiful knowledge on the subject matter.....even a Seasoned Mac User knows better to say such stupid things.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-03-06 23:54:25 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Frankly I don't care if CCP decided to start supporting Linux again or not but it seems rather silly for them to devote that many man hours and resources to the small fraction of people that play on Linux. They would need to be making enough money off of said fraction of players to make it worth spending money on the resources to develop a Linux client and maintain the support with each expansion. I understood this to be the reason they dropped Linux and even Mac support and I doubt that has changed much.


Since when did they drop Mac support?

Once again you speak of things your know nothing about.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-03-07 02:53:22 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Frankly I don't care if CCP decided to start supporting Linux again or not but it seems rather silly for them to devote that many man hours and resources to the small fraction of people that play on Linux. They would need to be making enough money off of said fraction of players to make it worth spending money on the resources to develop a Linux client and maintain the support with each expansion. I understood this to be the reason they dropped Linux and even Mac support and I doubt that has changed much.


Since when did they drop Mac support?

Once again you speak of things your know nothing about.

As if you are one to talk. You rarely if ever have any clue at all as to what you try to talk about. I say try because really all you do is come on the forums and start raging and flaming at people like a prepubescent child and then stomp and cry about things that don't go your way. This is what I get for clearing my blocked list.

I was, however, incorrect in my statement of Mac not being supported.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2012-03-07 04:25:49 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Frankly I don't care if CCP decided to start supporting Linux again or not but it seems rather silly for them to devote that many man hours and resources to the small fraction of people that play on Linux. They would need to be making enough money off of said fraction of players to make it worth spending money on the resources to develop a Linux client and maintain the support with each expansion. I understood this to be the reason they dropped Linux and even Mac support and I doubt that has changed much.


Since when did they drop Mac support?

Once again you speak of things your know nothing about.

As if you are one to talk. You rarely if ever have any clue at all as to what you try to talk about. I say try because really all you do is come on the forums and start raging and flaming at people like a prepubescent child and then stomp and cry about things that don't go your way. This is what I get for clearing my blocked list.

I was, however, incorrect in my statement of Mac not being supported.




Just underlining for emphasis.

Nice shot in the foot there buddy....keep up the good work.

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xcvr
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-03-07 06:58:24 UTC
If you can figure out how to operate and configure linux, you can figure out how to get windows on your computer for a lot less than 100 bucks.

Hard drive space is so cheap it's not even funny.

But no, let's expect a company to bend over backwards for just a small percentage of it's users. That way they'll have less time to fix the issues that apply to all of us!
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-03-07 14:08:27 UTC
xcvr wrote:
If you can figure out how to operate and configure linux, you can figure out how to get windows on your computer for a lot less than 100 bucks.

Hard drive space is so cheap it's not even funny.

But no, let's expect a company to bend over backwards for just a small percentage of it's users. That way they'll have less time to fix the issues that apply to all of us!

Sure they can...that isn't the point. Wine can easily be used to run EvE. The problem is that EvE doesn't run very well on Wine. The solution is to either make a client that runs better through Wine or make one for Linux so Wine is no longer needed. It is a legitimate complaint but from a very small portion of EvE players.

I remember when they announced they would no longer support Linux a few years back at Fanfest. They said the Linux userbase was something like 0.02% of all EvE players. Just wasn't worth the time or money.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-03-07 14:10:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
Drake Draconis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Frankly I don't care if CCP decided to start supporting Linux again or not but it seems rather silly for them to devote that many man hours and resources to the small fraction of people that play on Linux. They would need to be making enough money off of said fraction of players to make it worth spending money on the resources to develop a Linux client and maintain the support with each expansion. I understood this to be the reason they dropped Linux and even Mac support and I doubt that has changed much.


Since when did they drop Mac support?

Once again you speak of things your know nothing about.

As if you are one to talk. You rarely if ever have any clue at all as to what you try to talk about. I say try because really all you do is come on the forums and start raging and flaming at people like a prepubescent child and then stomp and cry about things that don't go your way. This is what I get for clearing my blocked list.

I was, however, incorrect in my statement of Mac not being supported.




Just underlining for emphasis.

Nice shot in the foot there buddy....keep up the good work.

Why? Because I am not an ignorant dipshit and can admit when I am wrong? Unlike you I actually think about things I say, how others may feel about the topic and try not to treat others with disrespect.

You being the obvious exception to that.

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Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#34 - 2012-03-07 18:13:43 UTC
xcvr wrote:
If you can figure out how to operate and configure linux, you can figure out how to get windows on your computer for a lot less than 100 bucks.


I build my own computers.

A Windows license costs around $100.

I could, in theory, get Windows for less than the retail price, but I'd either have to put more than $100 worth of my time into it or get it illegally.

That, and not having used Windows regularly in over a decade it's actually easier for me to fix Wine problems.


YMMV, HAND.

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