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Ok i got it
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
How did you Veterans start?
http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm Richard Bartle: Players who suit MUDs
Curiosity killed the Kata... ... but being immortal he wasn't too worried about keeping a count.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place...