Ships & Modules

Geddon or better still navy Geddon. Good tank with pulse laser and full set of lenses. Ogres in your bay or medium, light drones. Then go chew up those Level 4's. If your finding it hard to fit and stay alive or do it quick enough id look at your skills or swap to another race of ships. It takes a skillful intelligent player to fly Amarr. (Just like me)

Are you insane?!

Not saying I wouldn't want that on my Geddon but god....just imagine

You're in a shitfit BS in low sec, the fact that you lost 8v1 is secondary at best.

Your frantic go at trying to belittle me is hilarious, same for the mail you sent me. Per your mail, if you don't want people to call you on your mistakes don't state you're the dog's bollocks, especially not if you aren't as hot as you make it sound. Winning or losing is here nor there (nor important), good pilots can lose fights just fine. Thing is that smart and intelligent pilots (like you state yourself to be) don't **** fit. Whatever "logical" explanation you might come up with for that crap fit, no one's buying it.

I'll be the first to admit that my sheet is clean and therefore I'm probably not the one to call people out, but at least there's no crap losses on my list. I'm also not openly stating I'm brilliant.

Translated: No U


That's about the best you can do it seems.

Something is wrong with that then. Beams should have slightly lower damage (assuming we're not talking about the mythical low skill tachyon fits) but more range. Of course you can make up for that to some extent by switching crystals, but that will only take you so far

One thing to consider that hasn't been brought up in this thread is that Sanshas and to a lesser extent Blood Raiders really, really love to tracking disrupt. It isn't the most annoying form of EWAR, but for low skilled gun users it can be pretty bad. What's more, they never got the memo that CCP rebalanced TDs: theirs reduce tracking and optimal but leave falloff intact. So what, you ask? Well, pulses work almost entirely in optimal, and when you get a slew of TDs on you at once, your effective gun range can go from, say, ~50km down to ~5km in a damn hurry. Beams get around this problem to a certain extent because they do have a reasonable falloff component that can be further boosted by a TC or two



I'd actually aim to semi-permarun the LAR and feather the MAR. Usually you can pretty much leave the repper on if EFT shows anything more than 5 minutes of cap stability simply because your guns won't be firing all the time. The MAR is there for the beginning of rooms before you whittle down the incoming damage and of course for emergencies

Also, strongly consider recommending meta 4 reps ('Accommodation') over meta 2 . They rep ~9.1% more and simply don't cost that much

Finally, I'd like to make one more pitch for the Apoc over the Abaddon. Once you squeeze on all your modules -- which is admittedly a bit easier on the Abaddon -- your major problem with any Amarr BS as a new player is going to be capacitor. The Abaddon is the only ship in the lineup that doesn't get a cap reduction bonus, which means that it simply can't keep its guns going as long as the Apoc. And yes, this is somewhat mitigated by crystals, but at that point you're designing a ship around doing sub-optimal DPS -- on the Abaddon, you're relying on crystals to make up for both of the Apoc's bonuses and if you're fitting pulses you simply won't have the range you need for some missions even if you throw in a paint-scratcher like Radio L

This is coming from someone who started in an Abaddon (albeit with good skills). Honestly the ship only sort of works for mission with T2 pulses and access to Scorch, and with T1 pulses it just won't do the job as well as other ships. Strap beams on it to get around the problem and you just end up (assuming low skills) with violent cap death. Skill up and strap tachs on it and completely change your fitting paradigm -- and suddenly it's great. But that doesn't appear to be the point of the thread.

And none of those things work at 100km. When I threw that fit together I was getting really sick of my main's NH only being able to throw missiles out to 60km and then crawl at 300-400 m/s towards stuff that spawned further out. But really I think that fit desperately wants to be on a paladin or some ship that could manage to be more cap stable and tanky doing it.

I would not use the baddon for level 4s.
Its simply too cap hungry and the range when using pulse lasers is too short,dont forget many sansha rats use tracking disruptors.
An Apoc is ideal and dispite what previous posts say range is fine with pulse lasers and standard crystals.
you can swap to multis for close range work.
If your feeling flush you can use scorch but I would only brake them out when your in a hurry standard crystals are fine.