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Wealthy or Not
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Unknown Phenomenon
Arachnophobia Inc.
#1 - 2012-03-04 05:09:56 UTC
Hey all,

What in your opinion considered generally wealthy or well off nowadays in Eve?

2 bil? 10 bil? 100 bil?
L'ouris
Have Naught Subsidiaries
#2 - 2012-03-04 05:11:39 UTC
Wealthy in Eve?

how about: 'One who never questions his subscription status'?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2012-03-04 05:15:48 UTC
A trillion ISK.

That's 1000 billion if you were not aware, and is not unusual. 100 Billion is probably middle-class these days and completely attainable for a clever rabbit.









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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2012-03-04 05:20:28 UTC
When you buy an Ark in the station you are in because you can't be bothered to go 5 jumps to get the one you already own, you are wealthy.

Mr Epeen Cool
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-03-04 06:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
if you look at "total wealth" you are looking at ISK, assets and characters.

A year ago I felt like I was finally getting somewhere in terms of wealth accumulation - then I sold everything (except for a mission ship) to buy a character from the bazaar and felt extremely poor for the following few months.

I would feel truly wealthy when the question of wealth is no longer a question about my ability to generate income but a question about assets (i.e. when my assets [and asset-derived passive income] outstrip my own ability to actively generate income by far).

For now incursions/ratting are still my most efficient means of earning ISK and aside of characters I only own a few weeks worth of income in ISK/assets.

edit: to illustrate my point:

if you can earn 200m ISK a day, 1b ISK represents only 5 days worth of income and is not all that impressive.

if you can only earn 10m ISK a day then 1b ISK is a nice sum of money because it represents 100 days worth of income - however you can still earn a lot more by active work than by using this 1b ISK as a passive investment (which yields 10%/month for the sake of the argument).

with 3b ISK or 300 days of income at 10m/day you would be able to match your active income from passive investments.

with 30b ISK or about 8 years worth of income at 10m/day passive income would significantly outstrip your active income (10:1) to the point where you would probably no longer participate in active income generation.

as your potential income from active work goes up these numbers increase.
Tarikan
Astrology Club.
Insidious.
#6 - 2012-03-04 07:03:41 UTC
i'd say wealthy is when you can get enough isk per month to buy a plex or 2 for added subscription and still have isk left over for ships and goodies. Or you pay the 15 bucks and you have now all the isk for ships and goodies, but i'd definitely say that when you can afford a plex and have extra isk to spare is when you can consider yourself wealthy.
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-03-04 07:12:28 UTC
Wealthy is when you have so much isk that you just stop caring.
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#8 - 2012-03-04 07:31:08 UTC
Look up your expectancy of life in the relevant actuary tables; if you have enough to buy PLEX to surpass this number then you're rich, if not then you're not.

I'm rich, are you?

Nyan
Ai Shun
#9 - 2012-03-04 07:33:19 UTC
Unknown Phenomenon wrote:
What in your opinion considered generally wealthy or well off nowadays in Eve?


I don't have a number. PLEX has changed the way I look at ISK; so I don't consider ISK a measuring stick in-game anymore.
TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#10 - 2012-03-04 08:56:29 UTC
Wealthy is owning all the tech moons. I don't see why people complain at PLEX as having devalued isk - it still costs £30 to get a billion isk, whereas tech moons will do that in less than a day for free... Same for incursions, really.

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Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#11 - 2012-03-04 09:14:00 UTC
I'd say that it's the person who can't spend it fast enough who's the wealthiest. Earning isk just to spend it on means to earn more isk is pointless. If you ever have so much money in a game that it's spilling out your bunghole then I'd say it's time to start thinking about putting all that free time towards something actually meaningful.

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Ai Shun
#12 - 2012-03-04 09:15:57 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Wealthy is owning all the tech moons. I don't see why people complain at PLEX as having devalued isk - it still costs £30 to get a billion isk, whereas tech moons will do that in less than a day for free... Same for incursions, really.


Who complained?
Valei Khurelem
#13 - 2012-03-04 09:19:19 UTC
L'ouris wrote:
Wealthy in Eve?

how about: 'One who never questions his subscription status'?


Bingo!

Being able to buy PLEX whenever you want is like being able to buy gold RL whenever you want, you have to be wealthy in order to do it and it means in the end any losses you have won't matter in the long run.

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Ai Shun
#14 - 2012-03-04 09:26:04 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
Being able to buy PLEX whenever you want is like being able to buy gold RL whenever you want, you have to be wealthy in order to do it and it means in the end any losses you have won't matter in the long run.


Do you separate in-game from out-of-game for PLEX purchases for that?
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#15 - 2012-03-04 09:33:07 UTC
If you can afford to do what you want to do without having to slave away for it then you are wealthy enough.

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Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-03-04 09:39:53 UTC
Wealthy is still alive and with your ship.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#17 - 2012-03-04 10:15:51 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
Wealthy is still alive and with your ship.



That's it? That's your definition of wealthy? What?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-03-04 10:27:08 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Pok Nibin wrote:
Wealthy is still alive and with your ship.

That's it? That's your definition of wealthy? What?

Oh. You again. The legend in his own mind.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Mersault
Blue Nine Industries
#19 - 2012-03-04 10:38:54 UTC
I was wealthy like you till I took a Monocle to the knee
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#20 - 2012-03-04 10:53:01 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Pok Nibin wrote:
Wealthy is still alive and with your ship.



That's it? That's your definition of wealthy? What?


I have him blocked with good reason. At least you are amusing P

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