Warfare & Tactics

One could say the same for brawling though, just with a different set of links (shield or armor). That said, I do agree that on-grid boosting will probably help PvP in a lot of ways.

In general the main points of the thread are;

• Brawlers are for starting players, less kills, piloting, tactics required, fully committed to fight.

• Kiters are for more experienced pilots, who want to be able to run from a fight, or escape and unfavorable situation.

• Boosters should have to be ON-Grid.

I agree with all the above points. In general kiting fleets allow your roam to not get face pwned...ruining your day. Unfortunately in EVE there is always a fleet with more #s than you somewhere...ability to GTFO>Ability to sit face to face and melt face...

Pardon my ignorance, but how is that bad? Offgrid t3 boosters completely obsolete fleet commands. What's the point of a damnation tanking like a beast if you don't even have to be on-grid to boost?

Edit: I'd assume you we're also against making t3's probable, but ass of you and me and all that jazz.

Bad poster is bad.



Yup, I've been there. Depending on the ship you're in too, there may not even be a chance to out-maneuver an agile kiter, but in an arranged 1v1, can't really just say 'no thanks', haha.

I was going to say that eve has a very good balance between trying to kite someone outside scram range and trying to get a brawling ship inside scram range.

But that balance basically thrown out of the window with off grid booster ships. The extra range these give to points and webs combined with the extra speed makes it very unbalanced.

I hope ccp does what you suggest and requires boosters to be on grid.

That doesn't make sense when both types of ships are bonused equally by links.

I flew Gallente in lowsec forever. Brawling is pretty simple for the most part - fit full tackle, max gank/buffer, warp in at zero and pew (covops alt is helpful for this last bit).

Now I fly Minmatar in nullsec roams and routinely find myself in matchups in which we are at a substantial numerical disadvantage, and I've developed a wonderful appreciation for kiting tactics. And 720s.

I do both about the same amount. I tend to favor kiting when I know I will be outnumbered/outgunned - which happens quite a bit, especially in the larger fights that I get into.

To drop 5 brawling BC into 10 brawling BC just turns into a DPS/tank slugfest where the 10 BC's typically have the upper hand. To use 5 nano BC's against those 10 brawling BC's makes the fight a winning proposition for the smaller force. These sorts of fights are player-skill intensive, but allow a smaller gang to engage a larger gang.

If you generally have numerical superiority, then by all means, brawl away. If you are often outnumbered (and even then get more people batphoned in on you), you should consider kiting.

Yes keep thinking brawling ships will benefit as much from skirmish links as kiting ships.

Close-in brawlers gain much more practical advantage from the sig reduction. The additional speed, agility and web/scram range also help immensely for getting hard-tackle. Plus the brawler has the advantage jump-in mechanics; with links you can have someone in hard-tackle range everytime unless it's a regional gate.



When in danger, I-LAW's preferred method of escape is storing their ship in a carrier. I can see how current skirmish links don't really support this version of "brawling."