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Torp Golem
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Kye Do'lan
The Whitesands Consortium
#1 - 2012-03-02 14:42:51 UTC
Anyone know what the torp rang is with a golem with max missile skills.
I tried a torp golem quite a while back and found the range to be crap

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Kneebone
K-H Light Industries
#2 - 2012-03-02 14:53:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kneebone
You need to rig it for distance and use the LD T2 Torps. The effective range with Javelins is a little over 60km with T2 rigs. T2 Rage is less than 40km. Would be nice if they could at least match the Manticore in terms of range.
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#3 - 2012-03-02 14:54:15 UTC
I can hit things at 60km. I am quite sure they go futher as I don't at the moment have any implants to help with missiles.
Kye Do'lan
The Whitesands Consortium
#4 - 2012-03-02 15:04:39 UTC
Cryissa wrote:
I can hit things at 60km. I am quite sure they go futher as I don't at the moment have any implants to help with missiles.

If you dont mind me asking...whats your fit

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Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#5 - 2012-03-02 15:40:28 UTC
Kye Do'lan wrote:
Cryissa wrote:
I can hit things at 60km. I am quite sure they go futher as I don't at the moment have any implants to help with missiles.

If you dont mind me asking...whats your fit


I guess standard Golem fit with two missile range extender rigs and T2 javelin torpedoes.

Then again, the target doesn't just have to be in range of your torps, you also need to hit it with your TPs or your damage will be less than spectacular.
Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
#6 - 2012-03-02 15:43:25 UTC
For max range, you need:
- Javelin torpedoes
- 1x Large Hydraulic Bay Thruster II
- 1x Large Fuel Cache Partition II
- 1x ZML1000 5% missile speed implant (6% not worth it IMO)

From memory, that gives you about 65km for javelin, 44 for standard and 38 for rage. Use EFT or Pyfa for exact range, and don't forget to take missile acceleration into account (remove 10% from max theoretical range)
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-03-02 15:48:39 UTC
Range sucks no matter what setup it is and what skills and implants.

And the fact javelins are a must ...

wtb turrent caldari PVE ship. (No not the nightmare :)
Kye Do'lan
The Whitesands Consortium
#8 - 2012-03-02 17:32:25 UTC
Thanks for the replies...I'll just stick with my cruise setup and nightmare for missions

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Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#9 - 2012-03-02 18:27:47 UTC
Kye Do'lan wrote:
Thanks for the replies...I'll just stick with my cruise setup and nightmare for missions


The problem with cruise missiles on the Golem is that defender missiles kill your dps (since they take out 25% of your volley, instead of 1/6 for the Raven or 1/7 for the CNR).
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#10 - 2012-03-02 18:48:15 UTC
Cedo Nulli wrote:
Range sucks no matter what setup it is and what skills and implants.

And the fact javelins are a must ...

wtb turrent caldari PVE ship. (No not the nightmare :)


There you go.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
OfBalance
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-02 20:17:44 UTC  |  Edited by: OfBalance
No troll, I would rather fly a rokh than a torp golem and between t2 rigs, necessary implants, faction painters, etc. you could probably fit a deadspace rokh to out-pace a golem for less isk vs. kin/therm rats due to vastly superior range and instant damage application, 1/2 reload time, etc.

tldr; Golems are cancer, cross-training is the answer.
Kye Do'lan
The Whitesands Consortium
#12 - 2012-03-02 20:28:22 UTC
I have 150 mil sp and can fly all at lv5 but seriously thinking of getting a navy raven to replace the golem

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Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#13 - 2012-03-02 22:29:11 UTC
OfBalance wrote:
No troll, I would rather fly a rokh than a torp golem


WTB Rokh-hull marauder.
OfBalance
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-02 22:43:16 UTC
Exploited Engineer wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
No troll, I would rather fly a rokh than a torp golem


WTB Rokh-hull marauder.



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stoicfaux
#15 - 2012-03-03 01:48:32 UTC
IME, this hits out to 60km reliably with Missile Projection and Missile Bombardment at V:
- 2x Large Hydraulic Bay Thruster II
- 1x ZML1000 5% missile speed implant

Using two missile speed rigs has the (slight) advantage of nine second flight times which is less than the 10 second cycle of the target painters. It helps a little with the volley counting and TP swapping.


Pyfa has exact range. Formulas at http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1309024 Look for "TRUE Missile Range."

As for the Golem in general, meh: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65340

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#16 - 2012-03-03 03:12:06 UTC
Exploited Engineer wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
No troll, I would rather fly a rokh than a torp golem


WTB Rokh-hull marauder.



The ship you are looking for is the Kronos.

The Rokh is terrible for PVE.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

OfBalance
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-03-03 05:19:33 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Exploited Engineer wrote:
OfBalance wrote:
No troll, I would rather fly a rokh than a torp golem


WTB Rokh-hull marauder.



The ship you are looking for is the Kronos.

The Rokh is terrible for PVE.


I think he was referring to the hull, which is every bit as sexy as the megathron variety you speak of.
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#18 - 2012-03-03 10:41:59 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
The ship you are looking for is the Kronos.

The Rokh is terrible for PVE.


Ok.

Take the Kronos.
Rip out the armor repair bonus, replace with +5% shield resistances per level.
Rip out the stasis webifier bonus, replace with +10% large hybrid optimal range.
Rip out three low slots, add three high slots.
Tweak PG and CPU.
Rip out Kronos hull, replace with Rokh hull.

Done.
Ahrieman
Codex Praedonum
Divine Damnation
#19 - 2012-03-03 10:48:58 UTC
Kye Do'lan wrote:
I have 150 mil sp and can fly all at lv5 but seriously thinking of getting a navy raven to replace the golem


CNR's are weak. Be a man and rock a Navy Scorp LIKE A BOSS!

Solo Rifter since 2009
OfBalance
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-03 23:07:23 UTC
Ahrieman wrote:
Kye Do'lan wrote:
I have 150 mil sp and can fly all at lv5 but seriously thinking of getting a navy raven to replace the golem


CNR's are weak. Be a man and rock a Navy Scorp LIKE A BOSS!


You've got that reversed m8. Only a pussy drops the added dps on a CNR for more cushy tank on the SNI. Bear
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