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Xenuria for CSM!

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Audie Ryan
Nothing Comes To Mind
Snuffed Out
#461 - 2012-02-28 22:31:29 UTC
HEY LOOK Xenuria HAS CANCER!!!!


LETS VOTE CANCER MONOCLE KID INTO THE CSM!!!!
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#462 - 2012-02-29 00:13:32 UTC
but am i a pubbie

this is important for my life decisions
Aiifa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#463 - 2012-02-29 00:28:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Aiifa
I'll vote for you if you post old alliance tournament videos on youtube having added an audio track of you talking over shadoo John Madden style
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#464 - 2012-02-29 15:15:51 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
What could be more STRANGE than a CSM candidate bumping everyone elses thread but his own? If i wasnt already runnign for CSM, i would vote STRANGE and pick Skippermonkey!

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Xenuria
#465 - 2012-02-29 22:27:11 UTC
I am not saying CSM 6 was ineffectual. They were very effective.
They just focused on the wrong things.

Hybrid balancing and gallente fixes were some good things that mittens and co did. I wont deny that. but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.

This is the MonocleGate we are talking about here. A bunch of meta trolls herded and cats and told them the ONLY WAY to get NEX items was REAL MONEY.

They believed that and started protesting and unsubscribing without fully understanding ANYTHING!

What started as a small scale troll erupted into an angry mob of tea-party esk antics and shenanigans. I spent 4 hrs a day in jita during every day of the protests observing the situation and if I had to put a number on it I would say maybe... MAYBE 15% of the people protesting realized that the NEX could be bought with plex and isk.

People took a short glance at the internal leaks and were all up in arms.

Hurping and Durping about, sperging nonsense. It was like everybody got a injection of alex johnes conspiracy bullshit and just ran with it.

I just wish we could have a DO-OVER and try this again only this time without the internal leaks and with CLEAR indication to all the ******* ******** shitbags out there that eve is not and was never going to be PTW.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#466 - 2012-03-01 00:36:50 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
I am not saying CSM 6 was ineffectual. They were very effective.
They just focused on the wrong things.

dude
your focus is LGBT issues

get a grip
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#467 - 2012-03-01 00:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Karadion
Xenuria wrote:

They just focused on the wrong things.

Hybrid balancing and gallente fixes were some good things that mittens and co did. I wont deny that. but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.

A) No, they didn't. Unless you wish to explain.
B) Incarna was a bad concept period. The whole point of Eve Online in the first place was FiS, WiS was supposed to be just a bonus on top of it, not a core part of the game. There have been so many expansions before incarna where things were working not quite as intended. Eve Online is always in "beta" forever no differently from any other MMO's. They spent a good part of the year developing the engine that powered Incarna and all they could show for it was a) Vanity items b) a captain's quarter with no useful purpose c) a useless currency
C) The "leaks" you like to claim is not true. The minutes from the CSM meetings were never leaked. The CSM6 team wanted the minutes released and used their influence to force CCP's hand. The only leaker on the CSM6 team though is Darius III.

On a scale of 1-10 regarding the LGBT concerns you have, yours is a 0. You can address your concerns at Second Life and incorporate an aspect of Eve Online over there.
Xenuria
#468 - 2012-03-01 01:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Karadion wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

They just focused on the wrong things.

Hybrid balancing and gallente fixes were some good things that mittens and co did. I wont deny that. but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.

A) No, they didn't. Unless you wish to explain.
B) Incarna was a bad concept period. The whole point of Eve Online in the first place was FiS, WiS was supposed to be just a bonus on top of it, not a core part of the game. There have been so many expansions before incarna where things were working not quite as intended. Eve Online is always in "beta" forever no differently from any other MMO's. They spent a good part of the year developing the engine that powered Incarna and all they could show for it was a) Vanity items b) a captain's quarter with no useful purpose c) a useless currency
C) The "leaks" you like to claim is not true. The minutes from the CSM meetings were never leaked. The CSM6 team wanted the minutes released and used their influence to force CCP's hand. The only leaker on the CSM6 team though is Darius III.

On a scale of 1-10 regarding the LGBT concerns you have, yours is a 0. You can address your concerns at Second Life and incorporate an aspect of Eve Online over there.


You seem... Upset.
also leaks DID happen.

Internal emails were leaked as well as the greed is good article.
You only show how new you are by trying to deny these facts.
xcvr
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#469 - 2012-03-01 01:26:21 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

Hybrid balancing and gallente fixes were some good things that mittens and co did. I wont deny that. but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.


You keep crowing about this, but you're wrong. The mass exodus of subscribers, contrary to what you believe, wasn't caused by one player, it was caused by the statements of one CCP CEO, combined with a damning newsletter leak.

Xenuria wrote:

This is the MonocleGate we are talking about here. A bunch of meta trolls herded and cats and told them the ONLY WAY to get NEX items was REAL MONEY.


Wrong. Players were angry that NEX items potentially changing the balance of the game would be obtainable without playing AT ALL. Only a minority of players actually care about the vanity items, so if you actually intend a serious attempt at being elected, you should shut up about this garbage.

Xenuria wrote:

I just wish we could have a DO-OVER and try this again only this time without the internal leaks and with CLEAR indication to all the ******* ******** shitbags out there that eve is not and was never going to be PTW.


You actually think that the things that were leaked were BAD for the game? That we would be better off if we weren't aware of what CCP intended for OUR future? Oh, I get it now, you are so wrapped up about losing WiS that you're willing to defend CCP keeping us in the dark about the actual GAME part of Eve.

This platform just keeps getting better and better.
xcvr
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#470 - 2012-03-01 01:43:31 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

...but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.


"You seem... Upset. "

So upset that over this one issue, you're running for CSM. So upset that even though you seem to have a decent chunk of brains, (spoiled mostly by the idealism of youth), your mood has clouded the reality that without an idea that hundreds (if not thousands) of players can get behind, you don't have a chance in hell.

I wouldn't define your detractors as upset, really. None of us are crying out loud.

It's just you.
Xenuria
#471 - 2012-03-01 02:08:26 UTC
xcvr wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

Hybrid balancing and gallente fixes were some good things that mittens and co did. I wont deny that. but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.


You keep crowing about this, but you're wrong. The mass exodus of subscribers, contrary to what you believe, wasn't caused by one player, it was caused by the statements of one CCP CEO, combined with a damning newsletter leak.

Xenuria wrote:

This is the MonocleGate we are talking about here. A bunch of meta trolls herded and cats and told them the ONLY WAY to get NEX items was REAL MONEY.


Wrong. Players were angry that NEX items potentially changing the balance of the game would be obtainable without playing AT ALL. Only a minority of players actually care about the vanity items, so if you actually intend a serious attempt at being elected, you should shut up about this garbage.

Xenuria wrote:

I just wish we could have a DO-OVER and try this again only this time without the internal leaks and with CLEAR indication to all the ******* ******** shitbags out there that eve is not and was never going to be PTW.


You actually think that the things that were leaked were BAD for the game? That we would be better off if we weren't aware of what CCP intended for OUR future? Oh, I get it now, you are so wrapped up about losing WiS that you're willing to defend CCP keeping us in the dark about the actual GAME part of Eve.

This platform just keeps getting better and better.



I would not expect a goon to understand anything I posted in this thread. Players were not angry that NEX items would change the ballance of the game.

come on now lets think about this for a second. My monocle is not going to give my ships more pew pew. Anybody that told you otherwise is trolling you.

People un-subscribed because they bought into the stupid **** that people like you spew out. Not because there was anything "wrong" with NEX. They were vanity items. Nothing more.

We could have had ship painting by now or maybe even direct x 11 if not for ignorant, uninformed puppets like you.
xcvr
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#472 - 2012-03-01 02:23:33 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

People un-subscribed because they bought into the stupid **** that people like you spew out. Not because there was anything "wrong" with NEX. They were vanity items. Nothing more.


Straight from the newsletter that seems to either have escaped the capabilities of your brain, or (more likely) you just flat out never read.

"Not all virtual purchases will focus on customization: some will simply be new items, ammunition, ships, etc. that can be purchased outright. "

Go ahead... try and twist that around. I'll wait.
xcvr
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#473 - 2012-03-01 02:26:47 UTC
Oh my, I've found another from a different author, same newsletter! Reading sure is hard!

"On the opposite end of the scale
to vanity goods are performance-
based items such as weapons.
They are consumed through
gameplay, making them a
potentially powerful source of
renewable income. Selling them
for real money is very tempting.
They are highly desired by the
player audience and yield lower
development costs, as variation
can be achieved through numbers
rather than unique art assets.
Selling them though, is highly
controversial. We are planning on
doing so."
Karadion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#474 - 2012-03-01 02:53:38 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Karadion wrote:
Xenuria wrote:

They just focused on the wrong things.

Hybrid balancing and gallente fixes were some good things that mittens and co did. I wont deny that. but the hipster did cost us a freaking expansion for crying out loud.

A) No, they didn't. Unless you wish to explain.
B) Incarna was a bad concept period. The whole point of Eve Online in the first place was FiS, WiS was supposed to be just a bonus on top of it, not a core part of the game. There have been so many expansions before incarna where things were working not quite as intended. Eve Online is always in "beta" forever no differently from any other MMO's. They spent a good part of the year developing the engine that powered Incarna and all they could show for it was a) Vanity items b) a captain's quarter with no useful purpose c) a useless currency
C) The "leaks" you like to claim is not true. The minutes from the CSM meetings were never leaked. The CSM6 team wanted the minutes released and used their influence to force CCP's hand. The only leaker on the CSM6 team though is Darius III.

On a scale of 1-10 regarding the LGBT concerns you have, yours is a 0. You can address your concerns at Second Life and incorporate an aspect of Eve Online over there.


You seem... Upset.
also leaks DID happen.

Internal emails were leaked as well as the greed is good article.
You only show how new you are by trying to deny these facts.

You seem... Dumb.
Only 1 leak over a single event (singular) occurred which was the newsletter & Hilmar's email (singular). The CSM Minutes were not leaked whatsoever because the CSM in general again used their influences combined with the Jita protest to force CCP's hand as I mentioned. Other than that, you seem... dumb.
xcvr
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#475 - 2012-03-01 03:01:20 UTC  |  Edited by: xcvr
Karadion wrote:

Only 1 leak over a single event (singular) occurred which was the newsletter & Hilmar's email (singular). The CSM Minutes were not leaked whatsoever because the CSM in general again used their influences combined with the Jita protest to force CCP's hand as I mentioned. Other than that, you seem... dumb.



Ya'll are talking about two different events, I think. The D3 'leaks', used in quotes because it's not strictly a fact due to CCP obfuscating things, and the leaks Re:Greed is Good, which were actual leaks by CCP employees fearing (rightly so) for their future as a successful company.

At any rate, it's pretty clear that the only thing Xen is using his brain for is a hat rack, and that he'll twist around anything he likes to support his selfish views. He doesn't care to do any actual research, and spouts terms that he doesn't completely understand.

Example... the DirectX 11 comment. Last I checked, just about any MMO is hesitant to require the latest and greatest of hardware/software to run their products, as it would eliminate a great deal of subscribers. Moving to DX 11 is fine for some top of the line "show off your hardware" title, but for an MMO that spans MANY iterations of hardware and software, it would be suicide to rule out the largest part of your customer base just for the sake of a little more bling.
Shosuro Ayame
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#476 - 2012-03-01 05:56:06 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

I would not expect a goon to understand anything I posted in this thread. Players were not angry that NEX items would change the ballance of the game.

come on now lets think about this for a second. My monocle is not going to give my ships more pew pew. Anybody that told you otherwise is trolling you.

People un-subscribed because they bought into the stupid **** that people like you spew out. Not because there was anything "wrong" with NEX. They were vanity items. Nothing more.

We could have had ship painting by now or maybe even direct x 11 if not for ignorant, uninformed puppets like you.


So, you want us to have more things we don't need over ship/null sec/low sec/industry/mining fixes and balances? Y'know what? I'm fine with cosmetic things, so long as it doesn't detract from the game. There's more important things to focus on than hello kitty megathrons and my little pony jackets. Fixes > Cosmetic garbage.

Side note: Direct X 11? Not needed. This isn't a Bethesda title that wants the latest and greatest in graphics so we can have bloom off every bloody surface in the game. The last time they made a giant leap for graphics look at how many people had to replace their hardware just to run the game.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#477 - 2012-03-01 06:10:43 UTC
the fact alone that Xenuria succumbed to generalizing a group of about 162,287 people just because he's mad at them says enough about his feasibility as a csm member

that said it would be freaking hilarious
Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#478 - 2012-03-01 06:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Devilish Ledoux
Okay, I'm calling it. It's 06:11 Eve time. Candidacy died due to pussyfarts.
Xenuria
#479 - 2012-03-01 16:24:42 UTC
I would bring something NEW to EVE. Is that really so bad?
knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#480 - 2012-03-01 17:16:46 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
I would bring something NEW to EVE. Is that really so bad?



No you won't, because thats not what the CSM does. How can you run for CSM and completely fail to understand what it does at a fundamental level?

You don't get to pick and choose which features you want to add to EVE. You get to take what the players want and present it to CCP for them to look at; there is even a system in place to tell the CSM what players want most of all.

Your core responsibility in the CSM is to represent the players as a stake holder, not to suggest your own agenda to the CSM.

The whole point of the election is to pick the people who represent us. Think of the players like a Union; we're picking out diplomat.

CCP needs to remove you and anyone else who is treating this as a platform to get what they personally want changed in EVE, because it doesn't work that way. CSM6 understood that, and that is why it worked.