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The RiSK VS REWARDS RATIO OF TECH MOONS is out of BALANCE WORSE THEN INCURSIONS!!!

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#1 - 2012-02-29 18:39:29 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
The RiSK VS REWARDS RATIO OF TECH MOONS is way out of BALANCE!!! WORSE THEN INCRUSIONS even as a SUPER mineral fountian worse then any single ISK fountian! NERF IT BEFORE YOU NERF INCURSIONS OR MOVE SOME OF IT TO HI SEC!!! As an incursion FC I see wrecks every day in incrursions if you tell me it is absolutely risk free I'll call you a an ignorant liar to your face you just don't know the truth you NULL BEAR liars! I've never ever heard of ship loss created in passive moon goo ops

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/02/28/jesters-trek-risk-free-isk/
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#2 - 2012-02-29 18:40:43 UTC
Darth shut up and go back to BTL.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#3 - 2012-02-29 18:41:24 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Darth shut up and go back to BTL.

MAKE ME BEETCH
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#4 - 2012-02-29 18:42:25 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
The RiSK VS REWARDS RATIO OF TECH MOONS is way out of BALANCE WORSE THEN INCRUSIONs AS A SUPER mineral fountian worse then any ISK fountian! NERF IT BEFORE YOU NERF INCURSIONS OR MOVE SOME OF IT TO HI SEC!!! As an incursion FC I see wrecks every day in incrursions if you tell me it is absolutely risk free I'll call you a an ignorant liar to your face you just don't know the truth you NULL BEAR liars! I've never ever heard of ship loss created in passive moon goo ops

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/02/28/jesters-trek-risk-free-isk/


Tech moons: Also not risk free. See also: Nullsec.

Seriously, your incomprehensible babble is inversely proportionate to the sense this post would make if it were, in fact, intelligible or based on any veracity whatsoever.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2012-02-29 18:53:53 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
The RiSK VS REWARDS RATIO OF TECH MOONS is way out of BALANCE WORSE THEN INCRUSIONs AS A SUPER mineral fountian worse then any ISK fountian! NERF IT BEFORE YOU NERF INCURSIONS OR MOVE SOME OF IT TO HI SEC!!! As an incursion FC I see wrecks every day in incrursions if you tell me it is absolutely risk free I'll call you a an ignorant liar to your face you just don't know the truth you NULL BEAR liars! I've never ever heard of ship loss created in passive moon goo ops

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/02/28/jesters-trek-risk-free-isk/


When did this last happen in an incursion?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-02-29 18:56:02 UTC
It's always impressive when you see a post where every last thing said in it is wrong…
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#7 - 2012-02-29 18:58:50 UTC
Yeah all those wars in nullsec are just co-incidence. I count 39 incidences of sovereignty changes in under the past 48 hours, according to Dotlan, and it's not even the week-end. The most violent systems are always null sec systems - 1250 ship losses in Etherium Reach alone in the past 24 hours, 10 times more than Tama.

Null sec is risk free! Once you put a POS on a technetium moon the devs give you a magic pass that means no one can touch that POS or that moon ever again.

Reality: The moons are heavily defended because they are worth so much. HTFU and go take one if you want one so bad. Oh wait, you can't, because there's a huge supercap fleet waiting to hot drop your arse 24/7. That's not called "risk free", it's called defending your stuff. Something empire care-bears just don't understand cos mommy Concord does it for you. Or not.
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-02-29 19:04:46 UTC
If tech moons are that easy to take why don't you have one
Real Poison
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-02-29 19:13:24 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
... OR MOVE SOME OF IT TO HI SEC!!!


funny idea Lol

btw your corp dude, it's effin' old!
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#10 - 2012-02-29 19:15:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Jovan Geldon wrote:
If tech moons are that easy to take why don't you have one



Becuase TECH moons are all in NULL sec and NULL SEC is filled with ARSE HATS... There is oil&gold in Alaska you can just dig out of the ground why don't I live there? BECAUSE I HATE THE COLD DESOLATION and the polar bears look at me like I'm an appetizer :P I live in Newport Beach a bike ride from the beach in anice neighborhood but could be richer if I moved to Alaska why? Looking at bikinies during summer even though I'm broke is more my cup of tea then living under a rock surronded by glaciers eventhough my cave is lined with gold Big smileBig smile

And yes I did once live in Alaska for 2 very very brief periods and while a grizz never charged me http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/grizzly-bear-charges-alaskan-tourists-video-010559736.html once on a canoe trip a mother moose did and I've never paddled so fast before in my life. Don't cry to me about RL risk versus rewards ratios
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Velicitia
XS Tech
#11 - 2012-02-29 19:15:39 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's always impressive when you see a post where every last thing said in it is wrong…


perhaps you should head to F&I sometime Tippia Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#12 - 2012-02-29 19:18:15 UTC
Real Poison wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
... OR MOVE SOME OF IT TO HI SEC!!!


funny idea Lol

btw your corp dude, it's effin' old!

Yep it was a beta testing corp according to my CEO... we're older then GOONs ( then again many 3rd graders are older then GOONs and are more mature LolLol :)
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Real Poison
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-02-29 19:21:17 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:

Yep it was a beta testing corp according to my CEO... we're older then GOONs ( then again many 3rd graders are older then GOONs and are more mature LolLol :)


i know Cool, i was CEO loooooong ago
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#14 - 2012-02-29 19:27:06 UTC
Darth you really need to do your research more. Seriously man you are an idiot. You can mine moon goo in 0.3 systems and below and there are tech moons in low sec.


See Ref, pandemic legion towers in black rise area.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.

Real Poison
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-02-29 19:32:22 UTC
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Darth you really need to do your research more. Seriously man you are an idiot. You can mine moon goo in 0.3 systems and below and there are tech moons in low sec.


See Ref, pandemic legion towers in black rise area.


he said hi-sec no empire / low-sec.

for a second, imagine tech moons in 1.0 high-sec.

corp/alliances had to grind standings to be able to anchor/charter for towers.
war-decs would be required for contesting it.

unrealistic i know, but could be fun
Nex apparatu5
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-02-29 19:40:11 UTC
Real Poison wrote:
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Darth you really need to do your research more. Seriously man you are an idiot. You can mine moon goo in 0.3 systems and below and there are tech moons in low sec.


See Ref, pandemic legion towers in black rise area.


he said hi-sec no empire / low-sec.

for a second, imagine tech moons in 1.0 high-sec.

corp/alliances had to grind standings to be able to anchor/charter for towers.
war-decs would be required for contesting it.
unrealistic i know, but could be fun

With the way POSes work currently, hisec POSes are literally unkillable. So if you got a moon you would have a totally risk free source of income.
JamesCLK
#17 - 2012-02-29 20:44:01 UTC
Also tech moons aren't ISK faucets like the CONCORD payouts on Incursions (the LP is also not an ISK faucet btw).
People buy the products produced by Technetium granted, it's just money- err, ISK changing hands. Same story as with minerals and PLEX for that matter.

Independantly from this, the risk/reward of moon mining is a different kind than the usual as it is on an alliance level.
I'd rather call it asset loss negation than riskyness because while you need to defend it, pretty much any losses are almost immediately reimbursed by the stupid levels of income Technetium provides - this effect is amplified when more than one such moon is owned.

Technetium moons aren't risky for large blocks because they can defend them, and the many moons reimburse any potential losses.
They are however, risky for smaller entities who cannot adequately defend them.
So it all boils down to the blob and force projection logistics once again - at least when it comes to risk assession.

Technetium does have an unhealthy iron grip on the invention market however; this is something which needs to change.

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#18 - 2012-02-29 20:44:41 UTC
^^ hurray, give us moons post haste.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne

Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#19 - 2012-02-29 20:46:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Micheal Dietrich
Hey you should look into getting a new keyboard, it looks like your caps lock key is broken.

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **

The Sardukar
Astrotech Industries Ltd
#20 - 2012-02-29 20:50:10 UTC
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Hey you should into getting a new keyboard, it looks like your caps lock key is broken.


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