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What stops people going to Nullsec, why do people go back to highsec from Null?
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Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#41 - 2012-02-29 09:54:15 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:

As for allying yourself with NPC pirates, why? ^^ You mean some kind of their station guns defend you deal?


Yeah along those lines, but doesn't get to the depth of it. I know it's very much in the minority these days to voice these opinions, but EVE is a role-playing game and I like to be able to immerse myself in the game world and interact with it in as meaningful way as possible. If I build up high standings with a faction I expect that to mean something, and likewise if I get a negative standings, that really isn't the case now. Good MMORPGs make player's choices and actions have meaningful consequences, this shouldn't just be in regard to other players but the NPCs as well.

As to rewards, I ran Pirate Missions and the income is a fraction to what I make in High Sec just doing Exploration, and since the standings don't mean ****, there's really no point, I don't do PvE for it's own sake as it all pretty much sucks.

I ran "purely solo" as well, well actually real "pure solo" as I didn't have an alt account. Blink Bookmarks, cloak, and Local Chat wasn't that dangerous.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#42 - 2012-02-29 12:03:52 UTC
L0rdF1end wrote:
Just curious, maybe some of you can help me understand why some people are so dead against nullsec.

Okay...some may have had a bad experience, but I know of some people that plainly refuse to ever go to null...what a waste of this beautiful game if your not going to eventually explore all aspects.

so anyone? open conversation, lets find out the reasons.



There are really three reasons I see people leaving null-sec:

1) Some people discover that they don't like the big fleet fights and the lag. They get into 0.0 because they want to make isk but have trouble adapting to the simple fact that they are also expected to participate in fleets. The null-sec game is really a team effort and people who are not team players don't fit in.

2) If you're unlucky you'll get in a corp/alliance with socially inadept FC's who have big egos and are rude and juvenile beyond belief to people who volunteer their time and effort and put their ships on the line for the "good of the many". If logging on means enduring abuse then people give it up (and you would be amazed how many -- often inexperienced -- FC's are like this).

3) In some areas of EVE, the null-sec game is mind-numbingly dull because it can be (a) empty (b) full of bots or (c) camped all the time by reds which makes undocking alone dangerous. In other words, there are many places in Null-sec that experience a severe lack of content. People who experience that tend to think that all of null-sec is boring and just give it up.

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xeitgeist
Australian Tax Office
#43 - 2012-02-29 14:37:49 UTC
It's mainly ISK. PVP isn't really that profitable compared to things like Incursions, which doesn't make sense because its the highest risk activity in the game.
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#44 - 2012-02-29 16:04:33 UTC
I have been in 0.0 several times and the reason why I stay in low-sec faction warefare is simply this: 0.0 is boring!

Here are some random reasons why it is boring to be in 0.0:

  • Being part of a 100 man gate camp waiting for a victim to jump through is simply boring... 30 minutes no activity, then someone jumps through not having a cloak... 2 secs later he is dead. Where is the hunting fun?
  • Shooting at POS or structures in general is boring.
  • Maintaining of a POS because you can't dock is boring. Give us a small housing for solo or small corps.
  • If you are flying a small ship (e.g. Frigate) you usually can't do anything useful PVE-wise in 0.0. => This is boring if you just want to relax and shoot some rats.
  • If you are flying a big ship to do some solo PVE, then you have to be careful not to loose it due to costs... so if you have enemies in space what do you do? You dock / hide in POS / cloak => this is boring.
  • Waiting ages until a proper 50 man (or more) fleet is set up to do anything useful in 0.0 is... yes, it is boring.
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