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Kaisi13
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-09-09 07:24:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaisi13
Our Alliance has been war decced.
Our WT are currently busy with other things and are not bothering us atm.
I know that if I rep someone who is at war I will get an aggression timer aswell.
But how does it work the other way around?
If I rep someone while at war do they get the agression timer aswell??

*edit
Maybe to put it clearer, I want to join an incursion fleet as logi pilot while at war,
will the other fleet members get an agression timer if I rep them?
SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#2 - 2011-09-09 12:26:23 UTC
not too sure.
but i think, no.

they wont get an aggression timer if you Rep them while you are at war, only the other way around.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.
Alua Oresson
League of the Shieldy
SLYCE Pirates
#3 - 2011-09-09 13:21:47 UTC
They won't be attackable.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-09-09 14:59:19 UTC
Probably you will need remote rep in your Logi.
Thats why pilotes at war are usually not wellcome in incursions.
n00n3r
Malicious Destruction
#5 - 2011-09-16 11:28:38 UTC  |  Edited by: n00n3r
you won't transfer aggression to the dps pilots by repping them.

however, if you establish a cap chain with someone, say the other logi for example, they WILL get aggression, as well as any other logi they transfer with.

if you really want to logi while in war I would recommend doing so as a scimi/onerios. Just keep in mind, many pub fleets won't want to take the risk of war targets coming in and blowing up their healers..

Bad things tend to happen when logis are dead.

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Frel
The Pro Choice
#6 - 2011-09-16 17:11:11 UTC
Just remember full disclosure.

It depends on who your at war with, 1 man corp? That can still prove to be problematic for your incursion fleet. Most people have a hard time when they get into a site and combat has started only to put a repper or transfer on you to find your a war target. Share this important information with your fleet BEFORE you activate that gate. Most will ask you to leave regardless, shareing the information before the sites started will help not get you blacklisted.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-09-17 05:02:24 UTC
n00n3r wrote:
you won't transfer aggression to the dps pilots by repping them.

however, if you establish a cap chain with someone, say the other logi for example, they WILL get aggression, as well as any other logi they transfer with.

if you really want to logi while in war I would recommend doing so as a scimi/onerios. Just keep in mind, many pub fleets won't want to take the risk of war targets coming in and blowing up their healers..

Bad things tend to happen when logis are dead.


Other logis in the gang will eventually get aggro timer anyway, even if you're in scimitar/onerios, since you'll get incursion rat aggro at some point, then they'll have to repair you.
n00n3r
Malicious Destruction
#8 - 2011-09-17 11:59:03 UTC
i think it would be more accurate to say : At some time, even in a scimi/onerios, you will get incursion aggro and need reps. Weather or not the other logis HAVE to rep you, is a different matter entirely.

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Smooy Clouden
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-09-19 13:39:15 UTC
Most incursion FCs I've flown with do not welcome pilots at war and they may state that in the fleet advertisement. If you are at war and don't tell the FC, chances are no one will rep you and you will lose your ship and possibly be added to the blacklist. Other logis get a 15min aggression timer if they rep you. Now when I'm in a forming incursion fleet I put a single rep on every fleet member to see if the war aggression pop-up appears before we get into the sites.
Lady Go Diveher
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-09-21 09:38:54 UTC
If you get turned down for an Incursion fleet because of war, the correct thing to do is:

1) Open the chat box
2) Type "FC, you are a terrible carebear waste of space. Biomass, plox."
3) Hit enter.
4) Find people to run with who aren't ******* terrible.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-09-21 09:52:24 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
As a logi pilot and this being eve, there are some simple truths. If it is found you are at war in a site and you hadn’t told us, you would be left to die. If you had told us, then you would have been asked to leave.

Your a risk, and anyone that doesn’t know you wont take that risk.... the fact you can rep us isn’t the issue its that we cant rep you.

No Worries
Lady Go Diveher
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-09-21 12:49:19 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
As a logi pilot and this being eve, there are some simple truths. If it is found you are at war in a site and you hadn’t told us, you would be left to die. If you had told us, then you would have been asked to leave.


Go ahead and Biomass, you sad, sad excuse for a player.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-09-21 13:10:07 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
As a logi pilot and this being eve, there are some simple truths. If it is found you are at war in a site and you hadn’t told us, you would be left to die. If you had told us, then you would have been asked to leave.


Go ahead and Biomass, you sad, sad excuse for a player.


?

you going to risk a whole fleet over one ship that has a bunch of replacements shouting to take its place?

Incurtions are done with battle ships, faction battle ships, T3's, faction fits.... not what people want to lose... and theyre deadly on theyre own! just look back to when they first came out.
If i were to rep a war target in a vanguard and then get killed, its not hard to imagine some of the fleet would die soon after, especially if theres cap chains ect going on too.

its common sense so maybe you should find some.

No Worries
Lady Go Diveher
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-09-21 14:17:05 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
As a logi pilot and this being eve, there are some simple truths. If it is found you are at war in a site and you hadn’t told us, you would be left to die. If you had told us, then you would have been asked to leave.


Go ahead and Biomass, you sad, sad excuse for a player.


?

you going to risk a whole fleet over one ship that has a bunch of replacements shouting to take its place?

Incurtions are done with battle ships, faction battle ships, T3's, faction fits.... not what people want to lose... and theyre deadly on theyre own! just look back to when they first came out.
If i were to rep a war target in a vanguard and then get killed, its not hard to imagine some of the fleet would die soon after, especially if theres cap chains ect going on too.

its common sense so maybe you should find some.


So your solution is to NOT rep the other logi, the one cap chaining and repping YOUR logi and you think THAT course of action is a larger risk than someone finding and engaging their wartarget in a site during the 5minutes it takes to run one?

It's not common sense to be too ******* scared of anything bad happening to actually play the game.

Why don't you go hide in an NPC corp and ....

Oh wait, you do.
Lady Go Diveher
Doomheim
#15 - 2011-09-21 14:18:33 UTC
NOTE:

I've been in plenty of Incursion fleets (including highsec) where the logi have repped wartargets. They're also the same people who will tend to go do the lowsec ones, too.

Not that I'm calling you a spineless carebear, or anything.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-09-21 15:09:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Lady Go Diveher wrote:
NOTE:

I've been in plenty of Incursion fleets (including highsec) where the logi have repped wartargets. They're also the same people who will tend to go do the lowsec ones, too.

Not that I'm calling you a spineless carebear, or anything.


o/ lived in null, faught in day long sov fights, suicide roams, SB fleets... ect
im not worried about losing a ship or 10 if theres a reason to it but playing high sec games isnt one of them.
i dont deny there are fleets out there that will take WT's, but like you said they'd prob be in low sec and for a general fleet where everyones just met, why bother when theres 3 other basi's in channel who dont risk death and distruction?... at least if your not looking for it.

and the reason you have 3 logi in a VG is that you can survive with 2 if one bugs out. so not too worried either way , typically it doesnt get that far.

No Worries
Goose99
#17 - 2011-09-21 15:11:18 UTC
Meh, there are plenty of logis. They used to be rare when Incursions started, but now are everywhere. There's no reason for any fleet to take a wt, since they can just plunk another logi right away.

It's the risk vs. gain + hassle ratio of taking on wts in fleet. Risk is whatever FC believes. Gain is always 0. Hassle of getting another logi used to be high, but is now 0. Very few FCs consider wt's risk to be 0, so very few FCs take wts in their fleet.