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Micro Transactions - Aye or Nay?
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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-02-27 11:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Whippy
Apart from the fact that there's nothing Micro about CCP's idea of MT, this is a simple question to gauge how many people are for or against MT in a game you already pay for. For the most part I will be voting:

Nay.

EDIT: This isn't a discussion, just say yes or no.

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McRoll
Extraction and Exploration Ltd.
#2 - 2012-02-27 11:51:03 UTC  |  Edited by: McRoll
The answer is a no-brainer for people who understand the consequences of microtransactions. The typical cosmetic or "new weapon, new clothes" stuff brings in a lot of money, so from the developers point of view it makes more sense to spend a couple of days to **** out some virtual clothing for 5€ instead of developing meaningful content for the game which means way more work, money and time investment.

By bying stuff htrough microtransactions the players ruin their own game because they could have gotten meaningful content from the developers instead. You can compare microtransactions to cancer, it started somewhere within a game developer company as a little tumor and spread out developing metastases to other game developers.

Best examples for DLC or MT are the map pack for Call of Duty for example, (which costs around 15€ if I'm not mistaken-you would have gotten the content as a patch earlier) or the newest mount in WoW which costs insane 20€. Which sane developer would make a good addon for a game if you can make money so easily from idiots buying that?

So my answer to microtransactions is to burn them with fire. And fire a dozen of nuclear missiles at them afterwards just to be sure.
Valei Khurelem
#3 - 2012-02-27 12:27:47 UTC
******* nay

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Jackson Firn
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-02-27 12:34:53 UTC
At £15.99 a month per character no thanks, if they wanted to ditch that fee then i might be convoinced too roll with it, i have not been in the game long enough to understand all the implications, but i urge on the Nay..
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-02-27 12:35:42 UTC
No.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-02-27 12:45:56 UTC
Miss Whippy wrote:
Apart from the fact that there's nothing Micro about CCP's idea of MT, this is a simple question to gauge how many people are for or against MT in a game you already pay for. For the most part I will be voting:

Nay.

As long the vanity micro transactions are self sustaining and provide the salaries for NEW developers assigned to the project, I have nothing against it. IE custom paint shops, corporation/alliance HQ upgrades or clothes.

If stuff like this starts to eat funding from sub fees, there is a problem.

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TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-02-27 12:55:48 UTC
hell no
Ayumi Hinoki
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#8 - 2012-02-27 13:05:19 UTC
Nay.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-02-27 13:58:18 UTC
Micro transactions aren't a simple yes/no thing. It depends on whats being sold and at what price. Currently the stuff we have now is anything but "micro".

If MT can be done right then yes I'm for it. But CCP has already proven that they don't know anything about MT nor how a functioning MT system works.

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Herold Oldtimer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-02-27 14:09:16 UTC
As long as the things you buy is cosmetic, I have no problem with players using money if they want to look more different. Its their money after all.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-02-27 14:30:02 UTC
Herold Oldtimer wrote:
As long as the things you buy is cosmetic, I have no problem with players using money if they want to look more different. Its their money after all.

Microtransactions are fine so long as CCP does not go crazy with them. Cosmetic stuff as it is now is perfectly fine. Anybody who says otherwise is just being ignorant and stubborn. CCP needs to make money. The more they make the more they can evolve EvE and the more Devs they can hire instead of fire.

And did we really need another one of these threads?

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CanIHave YourStuff
In Praise Of Shadows
#12 - 2012-02-27 14:37:01 UTC
Be careful. Questioning the op can lead to personal attCks.
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#13 - 2012-02-27 14:37:12 UTC
Microtransaction: a short-term plan that fucks up a game long-term.
EvE Online: A long-term epic game.

So... umh... NAY to ******* up my favorite game!
Basileus Volkan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2012-02-27 14:37:54 UTC
What are they supposed to offer anyway? Clothes? We've been there, sane people don't want Space Barbies.

Ship customizations which you don't see most of the time or possibly get primaried for using?

People either buy that kind of stuff once (because they don't lose ships in Highsec) or they don't bother because they lose ships all the time in 0.0 so... There really is little point.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#15 - 2012-02-27 14:43:40 UTC
It's less about the "Yes or No" and more about the "How".

MT kind of already exists through the PLEX purchasing system. The potential problems/questions I have with MTs are...

- Will you be able to buy FiS things through NeX that you cannot get anywhere else?
- Will those "things" be limited to blue-prints so they are actually manufactured outside of NeX?
- Will the NeX items be destroy-on-death? I.e will a panted ship remain painted for you or will you need to re-paint it?
- Will the items you can buy ever enhance your ship or character in space? :-(

In general I don't want to see anything else going into the NeX at all but we'll see where the freight train of whoever is behind the mess of NeX takes us NeXt.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#16 - 2012-02-27 14:47:11 UTC
Not just no, **** no.

A cash shop has no place in a subscription game, and CCP should be ashamed for trying to do it in EVE.

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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-02-27 15:40:23 UTC
Cyprus Black wrote:
Micro transactions aren't a simple yes/no thing. It depends on whats being sold and at what price. Currently the stuff we have now is anything but "micro".

If MT can be done right then yes I'm for it. But CCP has already proven that they don't know anything about MT nor how a functioning MT system works.


Wrong, I'm talking about the very concept of having MT in a PtP game. I don't like paying extra for anything in a game I'm already paying for, be it vanity or not.

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Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-02-27 15:44:10 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
It's less about the "Yes or No" and more about the "How".

MT kind of already exists through the PLEX purchasing system. The potential problems/questions I have with MTs are...

- Will you be able to buy FiS things through NeX that you cannot get anywhere else?
- Will those "things" be limited to blue-prints so they are actually manufactured outside of NeX?
- Will the NeX items be destroy-on-death? I.e will a panted ship remain painted for you or will you need to re-paint it?
- Will the items you can buy ever enhance your ship or character in space? :-(

In general I don't want to see anything else going into the NeX at all but we'll see where the freight train of whoever is behind the mess of NeX takes us NeXt.


I don't regard Plexes as MT, for the simple reason that I STILL HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE GAME WITHOUT SELLING PLEX.

Apologies for the caps, but there is a difference and I wish people would stop suggesting that Aurum and Plex are one and the same thing.

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Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-02-27 15:54:02 UTC
Aye

As long as its vanity only. Clothing, Ship Skins etc fantastic give more. And as long as the ship skins require a ship of that type to be traded in as well so nothing is just "created" from thin air,

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#20 - 2012-02-27 16:13:26 UTC
Vanity only and more vanity.

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