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Any reason not to link AUR to the EVE store?
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Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#1 - 2012-02-24 03:23:33 UTC
Is there any reason why AUR can't be linked in the EVE store? I'd think CCP could make some profit from that and maybe even replace MT (micro-transaction).

I am not a lawyer so I don't know if there are any legal issues but this seems like a nice idea.

Advantages:
CCP could gain profit for very little extra work.
The EVE store would get more visitors.
People who wouldn't normal afford such things now can.
Could replace the current MT system, make WiS items craftable and thus make everyone happy while still generating money for CCP.
Little to no code would be wasted.
Products could be sold overpriced.

Disadvantages/Problems:
Legal issues?
Shipping?


And before someone ask: NO, CCP would not give stuff away for free; PLEX/AUR would act as a giftcard.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-02-24 04:04:27 UTC
What's AUR?

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-02-24 04:17:14 UTC
tikktokk tokkzikk wrote:
Disadvantages/Problems:
Legal issues?
Shipping?

Bazilions of free AURs that have been already given out.
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#4 - 2012-02-24 04:24:03 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
tikktokk tokkzikk wrote:
Disadvantages/Problems:
Legal issues?
Shipping?

Bazilions of free AURs that have been already given out.


They arn't tradeable for a reason. But I see your point!
HellGate fr
#5 - 2012-02-24 04:26:48 UTC  |  Edited by: HellGate fr
A lot of people who are rich ingame are poor IRL, so they would buy everything they can with their ISK

If I understood well
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#6 - 2012-02-24 04:32:14 UTC
HellGate fr wrote:
A lot of people who are rich ingame are poor IRL, so they would buy everything they can with their ISK

If I understood well


= Profit for CCP!
HellGate fr
#7 - 2012-02-24 04:47:37 UTC
That's just going to make the plex prices rise
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#8 - 2012-02-24 05:16:36 UTC
HellGate fr wrote:
That's just going to make the plex prices rise


But that is what CCP want right?
Weed Probe
Dynaco Manufacturing
#9 - 2012-02-24 05:37:28 UTC
tikktokk tokkzikk wrote:
HellGate fr wrote:
That's just going to make the plex prices rise


But that is what CCP want right?


If that what you want?

Everyone trusts Weed.
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#10 - 2012-02-24 05:38:47 UTC
Weed Probe wrote:
tikktokk tokkzikk wrote:
HellGate fr wrote:
That's just going to make the plex prices rise


But that is what CCP want right?


If that what you want?


I don't use plex so I honeslty don't care.
I would like this to replace the current MT though.
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#11 - 2012-02-24 05:43:12 UTC
Well one good reason would be that AUR was a terrible idea and should be done away with and never spoken of again.

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#12 - 2012-02-24 06:16:12 UTC
Valentyn3 wrote:
Well one good reason would be that AUR was a terrible idea and should be done away with and never spoken of again.


Agree. Sadly doubt that will happend so I though this could be a way to use AUR for good causes.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#13 - 2012-02-24 09:06:20 UTC
some people in EVE are fanatics(fans) "we say EVE is only FiS, even if it's produced by CCP they have to listen... " and other similar stuff

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-02-24 09:45:03 UTC
it's a giant can of worms that CCP won't touch with a ten foot pole, with good reason

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-02-24 20:36:15 UTC
There are real reasons for CCP not to do such a thing.

Firstly, it creates a measurable exchange rate for in game isk and rl currency.

Secondly, with such an exchange rate the tax man will want his fair share.

Thirdly, regulations drown companies like CCP to protect against money laundering.

While there currently are no such regulations and newer games are actually breaching the exchange divide it is only a matter of time before government gets involved in your game. As an alliance head, how would you like to be responsible for filing quarterly income reports and having to pay taxes on it? How would you like to account for where your isk is coming from and going?

Yeah, it's far fetched but, not really.

Don't ban me, bro!
Tikktokk Tokkzikk
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#16 - 2012-02-24 20:38:00 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
There are real reasons for CCP not to do such a thing.

Firstly, it creates a measurable exchange rate for in game isk and rl currency.

Secondly, with such an exchange rate the tax man will want his fair share.

Thirdly, regulations drown companies like CCP to protect against money laundering.

While there currently are no such regulations and newer games are actually breaching the exchange divide it is only a matter of time before government gets involved in your game. As an alliance head, how would you like to be responsible for filing quarterly income reports and having to pay taxes on it? How would you like to account for where your isk is coming from and going?

Yeah, it's far fetched but, not really.


So there are some legal issues. Thanks!
Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-02-24 21:13:21 UTC
I guess the problem would be ISK > stuff > eBay > $$$.
Ih8leveling
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-11 02:35:56 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
There are real reasons for CCP not to do such a thing.

Firstly, it creates a measurable exchange rate for in game isk and rl currency.

Secondly, with such an exchange rate the tax man will want his fair share.

Thirdly, regulations drown companies like CCP to protect against money laundering.

While there currently are no such regulations and newer games are actually breaching the exchange divide it is only a matter of time before government gets involved in your game. As an alliance head, how would you like to be responsible for filing quarterly income reports and having to pay taxes on it? How would you like to account for where your isk is coming from and going?

Yeah, it's far fetched but, not really.



In reference to your second point. YES, the IRS only has a short mention of virtual currencies on its website. However, tax implications on virtual currencies are in its infancy. With that said, state and local governments may try to develop an entirely new kind of tax around virtual currencies because they're so desperate for cash and they could do this before the IRS really wraps its head around the issue.

I'm a tax professional in real life and I'm keeping an eye on this issue because big accounting firms are also taking notice.