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Bioware; Angry Gamers Call Her a "Cancer"

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2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#21 - 2012-02-22 21:05:16 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
2bhammered wrote:

"I just figure they're jealous that I get to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either."

Yeah.... nothing wrong... hmm

Perhaps they should not take a years old quote about the lack of time her motherhood has afforded her for gaming and misrepresent it. You know what that sounds like, that sounds like a bunch of people who are jealous that she gets to have both a vagina AND a games industry job, and they can't get either.

2bhammered wrote:

But at least "He cites Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 as proof that "BioWare can get along just fine without me."

Well DA2 was a massive failure, Hepler had a part in that?! ME3, time will tell or just google the spoilers.

Massive no, not a massive hit but definitely not a massive failure. Even then you have no idea what parts of the story she has worked on. Could be all the good parts but you are quick to judge with no facts.



It seems other people are now misrepresenting the quote she made?! Yeah!

Massive yes? Again, check scores and sales vs investment but maybe you are right, a small failure, Bioware can afford a few of those after all?

What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#22 - 2012-02-22 21:06:44 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:

In other news, I dislike StarCraft (as compared with other, better RTS). OH NOES.



Blasphemer!Lol
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#23 - 2012-02-22 21:09:53 UTC
2bhammered wrote:


What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.


I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive.

Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie porn so do it at your own risk.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#24 - 2012-02-22 21:14:59 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:


What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.


I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive.

Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.



Lol

Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!Ugh

BTW what country is that? I am curious!
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#25 - 2012-02-22 21:22:14 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:


What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.


I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive.

Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.



Lol

Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!Ugh


Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Top Belt for Fun
#26 - 2012-02-22 21:23:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
Just because she was in charge of "romance writing" doesn't mean that she was in charge of the crazed characters that the rest of the story had to do. Anders the Angry and Emo Elf were pretty well done considering the limitations she had to work with.

IMO.

-Liang

Ed: I forgot the total **** pirate lady. She probably didn't have a lot of leeway there either - I'm sure mgmt told her to make a caricature woman for everyone to salivate over.

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#27 - 2012-02-22 21:28:57 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:


What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.


I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive.

Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.



Lol

Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!Ugh


Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none.



Your reply made no sense to me, could you explain yourself in greater detail perhaps?
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-02-22 21:31:32 UTC
Of all the parts of DA2 to complain about OP chooses the crappy romance parts, all romance in Bioware games is lame fanservice anyway so who would really give a ****?
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#29 - 2012-02-22 21:32:36 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:


What parts of the story she worked on? Well the video I linked in my reply to you describe one part she worked on, romance.


I see now why you and so many others are so upset, you want the romance to be more interactive.

Perhaps you should try those Japanese dating games instead, but in my country they are defined as kiddie **** so do it at your own risk.



Lol

Great, so either I go with twilight level of romances with George Lucas dialogue or hentai? I feel sorry for you!Ugh


Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none.



Your reply made no sense to me, could you explain yourself in greater detail perhaps?


You want to drag sense into something as nonsensical as this thread? Surely, you jest.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#30 - 2012-02-22 21:35:34 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Just because she was in charge of "romance writing" doesn't mean that she was in charge of the crazed characters that the rest of the story had to do. Anders the Angry and Emo Elf were pretty well done considering the limitations she had to work with.

IMO.

-Liang

Ed: I forgot the total **** pirate lady. She probably didn't have a lot of leeway there either - I'm sure mgmt told her to make a caricature woman for everyone to salivate over.



http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Jennifer_Hepler

I guess that is what she is responsible for? More or less.



I still think Bioware at the very least are doing a terrible job at PR. They should get their act together, they come across as pretty damn stupid.

Like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYfhTbNM-2Q&feature=BFa&list=UUliFIp2_QLnTnfYQei75nfw&lf=plcp

Lol

Oh and ding dong bannu end of rhine will remain a classic for years to come.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#31 - 2012-02-22 21:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
2bhammered wrote:


I still think Bioware at the very least are doing a terrible job at PR. They should get their act together, they come across as pretty damn stupid.


And you and the rest of the "angry games" upset over Jennifer Hepler aren't?

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#32 - 2012-02-22 21:40:31 UTC
Alpheias wrote:


You want to drag sense into something as nonsensical as this thread? Surely, you jest.




Sense is perhaps too much to ask for, how about you settle for understandable?
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Top Belt for Fun
#33 - 2012-02-22 21:41:32 UTC
2bhammered wrote:

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Jennifer_Hepler

I guess that is what she is responsible for? More or less.


Hmm, Orzammar was one of the better parts of DA1... pretty major feather in her cap if that's her doing. The only intro that held a candle to it was the city elf. The only part of DA2 that looks even remotely questionable is Anders, but on the whole was an interesting and memorable character. Romance with him felt really awkward, but that could be because he went ******* psycho in the end. Which had its own charm, really.

Also, she wasn't responsible for Emo Elf.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#34 - 2012-02-22 21:43:40 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:


I still think Bioware at the very least are doing a terrible job at PR. They should get their act together, they come across as pretty damn stupid.


And you and the rest of the "angry games" aren't?



Hey, I just made this thread, I do not partake in trolling her twitter or 4chan etc.

Also it is not my job. But I can promise you this, if I made comment like her on behalf of my company I would get fired. I try to avoid talking about pussy and start confrontation on my job related twitter accounts.
Alpheias
The Khaleph
#35 - 2012-02-22 21:44:31 UTC
2bhammered wrote:
Alpheias wrote:


You want to drag sense into something as nonsensical as this thread? Surely, you jest.




Sense is perhaps too much to ask for, how about you settle for understandable?


Fair enough, you can start though. Explain the rationale behind the vicious ire that you and many others has spewed over mrs. Hepler.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#36 - 2012-02-22 21:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: 2bhammered
Alpheias wrote:
2bhammered wrote:
Alpheias wrote:


You want to drag sense into something as nonsensical as this thread? Surely, you jest.




Sense is perhaps too much to ask for, how about you settle for understandable?


Fair enough, you can start though. Explain the rationale behind the vicious ire that you and many others has spewed over mrs. Hepler.



I did not ask for sense or for your to explain your crazy rationale, I asked for you to write your posts in a way that they can be understood.


I have read one of your replies 3 times and I have no idea what you are saying. Taken in context it is not understandable to me.

Alpheias wrote:
Yeah, I am pretty jealous in fact, knowing that you have all twilight romances with George Lucas dialogues and hentai in the world whereas I have none.


What does this mean? What are you trying to say?
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-02-22 22:03:03 UTC
I find it funny, that people still bother to ***** about these things.
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#38 - 2012-02-22 22:09:37 UTC
Sidus Isaacs wrote:
I find it funny, that people still bother to ***** about these things.


I'd rather ***** about starvation.
Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
#39 - 2012-02-22 22:22:20 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Ed: I forgot the total **** pirate lady. She probably didn't have a lot of leeway there either - I'm sure mgmt told her to make a caricature woman for everyone to salivate over.


TBH she was my favorite of the romance options. I mean, what were the other choices? Demon-possessed extremist, awkward want-to-be-demon-possessed blood mage, "kill all the mages" extremist (my character was a mage), or never-going-to-sleep-with-you-lets-be-married-to-god-together monk? No thanks. At least Isabella was honest about her motivations: get rich, get drunk, sleep with everything that moves.

And yes, this is very true: there are a lot of decisions that are made above the level of the average writer/artist/etc. When your boss says "this is what we want", you execute that design as well as possible even if you don't personally agree with it. This is of course something that fanboys don't understand.

2bhammered wrote:
Also it is not my job. But I can promise you this, if I made comment like her on behalf of my company I would get fired. I try to avoid talking about ***** and start confrontation on my job related twitter accounts.


That's nice. She didn't start the whole confrontation, she merely responded to an organized harassment campaign which was started for incredibly stupid reasons.

And it's only bad PR if you're an immature fanboy. Some of us appreciate that Bioware's management is willing to tell immature fanboys to STFU and quit whining (this isn't the first time), and are more likely to buy a game as a result.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#40 - 2012-02-22 22:25:59 UTC
I think the OP is a cancer

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?