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Kicking a corp member in space...

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-02-22 16:17:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanya Powers
arcca jeth wrote:
I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there.


Your explanation of the "unfairness" and mostly the last part I really enjoyed:

"This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there"

Isn't exactly what happens with high sec mechanics?

Ho wait, Eve is an harsh world...the moment isn't yours?
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#42 - 2012-02-22 17:40:43 UTC
GM Homonoia wrote:

In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.


So you can be a total *** or an utter ***, but not both. See, there is a line. Big smile

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Jita Alt666
#43 - 2012-02-22 19:34:18 UTC
GM Homonoia wrote:
A small update. As I said earlier; these types of issues are continuously being reviewed and I can add a small addendum to the policy I stated earlier.

We will still not intervene, however should this tactic and behavior enter the realm of "griefing/harassment", we may opt to step in. Note that someone simply refusing to leave for several days does not fall into this category. Things need to go pretty far for us to classify this tactic as such, but we do acknowledge that in some rare, extreme cases an evaluation of that particular individual case may be warranted.

In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.


So is the sum total of:
Using locator agents and then decloaking on grid and killing/podding then posting inflammatory eve mails is harassment?
Or is it the repeated killing/podding that is harrassment?
Or is it the inflammatory evemails?

If it is the killing/podding where is the line between "gud fites" and harassment?
If it is the inflammatory evemails where is the line between gentle mocking and harassment?

I'm not trying to be a ***, just curious as this seems a grey area where GM interpretation might be the difference between acceptable game play, warning time, or even a temp ban.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
United Caldari Space Command.
#44 - 2012-02-22 19:49:30 UTC
The question I have is if there is any benefit to keeping the system as is rather than changing it to allow a CEO to kick a member who is in space?

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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#45 - 2012-02-22 20:27:43 UTC
Tanya Powers wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there.


Your explanation of the "unfairness" and mostly the last part I really enjoyed:

"This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there"

Isn't exactly what happens with high sec mechanics?

Ho wait, Eve is an harsh world...the moment isn't yours?


I was simply relating my experience with this mechanic to a situation that i encountered recently where the scammer was exploiting this mechanic to try to scam me. once i revoked his roles, he couldnt leave for 24 hours, so he "recycled" his toon so he could create a new one to try to scam other unsuspecting victims.

I was relating to the topic really, wasn't trying to say it was unfair. The mechanic could be exploited in various different ways. Wasn't a complaint really, just an observation. not sure if troll....
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-02-22 22:52:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Headerman
Update: The pilot in question was succesfully kicked after a director logged on after a DT and removed the pilot from corp before said pilot had logged in.

I believe this particular mechanic is why a GM doesn't feel the need to intervene Smile

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