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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Vladimir Plinnikov
Plinnikov Family Holdings
#3121 - 2012-02-22 17:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Vladimir Plinnikov
I looked at Eve back when it was first released and passed simply because it didn't seem so much as a "sci fi opus/simulator" as I was looking for.
I didn't really want to be some lame guy in a smelly pod, I wanted to command a freakin spaceship, walk across the bridge and shout orders while engines burned and blasters discharged, manage and train my crew, perform damage control on the fly. Si I moved on and forgot about it.
I subbed to Eve and brought a few friends with me when I heard about Incarna, I thought it would be the beginning of really opening up a true sci fi universe and I couldn't wait to see what it contained. since then I really...

Can't say I haven't enjoyed my time in Eve so far because I have.

Can't say I'm going to unsub because all I got was a 15x15 room with a balcony, I'm still holding out for that true sci fi universe experience. Although I will ask to forgo the FPS blast em in the face for lols experience.

Can't say I'm awesome at pew pew because I'm not (Ironically I would be much better at a blast em in the face for lols experience based on the other games I play, but then I have other games for that. Leave that to them).

I can definately say though that I do not want CCP to dump Incarna.

It was stated once that the developers wanted to create a living science fiction world. Give us that world. (and hats)

On a side note OP I thought I read somewhere that you were thinking of running for CSM7. Is this true? I failed to see you in the candidate thread. From what I've read I seem to agree with a lot of your ideas and would like to see someone else in CSM7 besides the 400 I want to kill you candidate choices.
Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3122 - 2012-02-22 18:58:53 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=841914#post841914

CCP Guard wrote:
Tyme Xandr wrote:
I know I am the minority on this, and I hate to complain, but as much as a 'concentration in Space stuffs' is great for EVE Online (a spaceship oriented game) I was one of the (I suppose few?) players who were really excited for the WIS stuff. I figured when the game was refocused on the FIS content that the WIS content would still be slow trickle.

I see that this Inferno release is expanding on the CAC and possibly vanity store. I'm wondering if the WIS content is still being developed as I was very interested in:

- The booster/drug trade in bars/social rooms.
- Social minigames for when I don't have it in me to grind another Caldari mission or am waiting for a fleet to be organized through my corp/alliance.
- Space barbie.

I know while I may have been excited for these features, and may have been one of the few, was anyone else looking forward to this? And if a Dev is watching, is any of this still on the table? Does that table have a person around it by chance?


There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread Blink



Cant wait... Big smile
And really hoping for good news for WiS. Bear

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#3123 - 2012-02-22 19:08:51 UTC
Vladimir Plinnikov wrote:
I looked at Eve back when it was first released and passed because it didn't seem so much as a "sci fi opus/simulator" as I was looking for. I didn't want to be some lame guy in a smelly pod, I wanted to command a freakin spaceship captain, walk across the bridge and shout orders, manage and train my crew, perform damage control on the fly. I subbed to Eve and brought a few friends with me when I heard about Incarna, I thought it would be the beginning of really opening up a true sci fi universe.

Can't say I haven't enjoyed my time in Eve so far because I have.

Can't say I'm going to unsub because all I got was a 15x15 room with a balcony.

Can't say I'm awesome at pew pew because I'm not

I can say though that I do not want CCP to dump Incarna.

It was stated once that the developers wanted to create a living science fiction world. Give us that world. (and hats)

On a side note OP I thought I read somewhere that you r thinking of running for CSM7. Is this true? I didn't see you in the CSM7 thread as being a candidate. From what I've read I seem to agree with a lot of your ideas and would like to see someone else in CSM7 besides the 400 I want to kill you candidate choices.


Thanks for asking about the CSM. I am a candidate (took a couple of days to sort out some paperwork). You should be able to find me in the candidate list now.

Issler
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3124 - 2012-02-22 19:21:57 UTC
I just had to back off all of my bets on tommarow's dev blog after what soki informed me this morning, either way should be interesting.

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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3125 - 2012-02-22 19:45:07 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I just had to back off all of my bets on tommarow's dev blog after what soki informed me this morning, either way should be interesting.



Sorry, but, what???

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Razin
The Scope
#3126 - 2012-02-22 19:48:16 UTC
Dev Blog: The Future of Avatar Based Gameplay by CCP t0rfifrans

"Well now, we retreat to our cave and continue coding, crafting and designing. You’ll read more about the project in a future issue of EON, and we’ll be sure to keep you posted as the project progresses. There’s a lot of engineering and game design issues that need to be resolved. We have our work cut out for us. But hey, this is what we love doing! "
Vladimir Plinnikov
Plinnikov Family Holdings
#3127 - 2012-02-22 19:58:52 UTC
Razin wrote:
Dev Blog: The Future of Avatar Based Gameplay by CCP t0rfifrans

"Well now, we retreat to our cave and continue coding, crafting and designing. You’ll read more about the project in a future issue of EON, and we’ll be sure to keep you posted as the project progresses. There’s a lot of engineering and game design issues that need to be resolved. We have our work cut out for us. But hey, this is what we love doing! "



The date on that dev blog is 2006.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3128 - 2012-02-22 20:05:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
2018 Ambulation here we come! lol

Soki is an intel net group I work for in Eve, they 'hear' things. They also play the high sec game a bit too good thanks to character sales. They just simply told me that my assumptions what the blog tommarow is going to be about was wrong so its going to be something I haven't expected.

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Razin
The Scope
#3129 - 2012-02-22 20:14:16 UTC
Vladimir Plinnikov wrote:
Razin wrote:
Dev Blog: The Future of Avatar Based Gameplay by CCP t0rfifrans

"Well now, we retreat to our cave and continue coding, crafting and designing. You’ll read more about the project in a future issue of EON, and we’ll be sure to keep you posted as the project progresses. There’s a lot of engineering and game design issues that need to be resolved. We have our work cut out for us. But hey, this is what we love doing! "



The date on that dev blog is 2006.

Mind like a steel trap.
Pihls XIIX
#3130 - 2012-02-22 20:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Pihls XIIX
I want WiS 'Walk in stations'

I been playing eve and beta testing eve online. even at that stage it was talk
about 3D chars and be able to walk in stations by dev /ccp.

I been around from the start I been doing 'pew pew' also called pvp.

being mining industrial running poses been in 00 space 'been doing Ps' been doing all yo can do
in eve

I been promoting eve online as the best mmorpg out there best pvp best mmorpg corp
and well dragged people in eve online from the start.

after being in eve from the start Walk in stations was the thing that would inspire me to continue playing eve

set upp my own bar, shop having npc merchants be able to get my self a nice looking
office for my corp.


Now those I promoted eve over the years are now leaving eve ...

they are those people that build your pew pew ships those who you say go f''''............... when they say
they want WiS.

They are those people that are mining soo its minerals to build your ships for your pew pew ships
all from frigates to capital ships.

Before in eve it wasnt soo you could open the market to buy a ship becouse no one was there to build it
as the market are player driven also ships producing are player driven.

So when you tell those who wanted WiS go f '' .... you are then ruin your pvp pew pew game

becouse in eve all the ships are player build not by pew pew people without us

yo maybe need to ask ccp to start build your ships ??



Think it's not illegal yet.


'' http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=401

   Get me WiS 'Walk in Stations' CCP! The majority of the player base has wanted WiS ever since CCP pre viewed Ambulation back in 2006. EvE is not about PvP. EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP! Open the door!!!
Pihls XIIX
#3131 - 2012-02-22 20:24:56 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.

"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "

I don't agree, we certainly do want FiS but that doesn't mean we don't wasn more WiS. I think a lot of us do! And leaving WiS as single player prison cell CQ is a reminder that CCP can't keep its promises. The interview makes it clear there is no plan in the works or even being discussed to take WiS beyond the prison cell.

So if you wanted WiS please post in this thread because I think a lot of us want CCP to deliver more of what they have promised use for years now.

DO NOT ABANDON WiS!!
LET US OUT THAT DOOR!!!!

Issler


I agree 100%

   Get me WiS 'Walk in Stations' CCP! The majority of the player base has wanted WiS ever since CCP pre viewed Ambulation back in 2006. EvE is not about PvP. EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP! Open the door!!!
Crucis Cassiopeiae
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3132 - 2012-02-22 20:33:23 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
2018 Ambulation here we come! lol

Soki is an intel net group I work for in Eve, they 'hear' things. They also play the high sec game a bit too good thanks to character sales. They just simply told me that my assumptions what the blog tommarow is going to be about was wrong so its going to be something I haven't expected.


and...
Is it good or bad for WiS? Bear

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#3133 - 2012-02-22 20:34:42 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
2018 Ambulation here we come! lol

Soki is an intel net group I work for in Eve, they 'hear' things. They also play the high sec game a bit too good thanks to character sales. They just simply told me that my assumptions what the blog tommarow is going to be about was wrong so its going to be something I haven't expected.


And your expectations were...?
Aquila Draco
#3134 - 2012-02-22 20:48:35 UTC
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=841914#post841914

CCP Guard wrote:
Tyme Xandr wrote:
I know I am the minority on this, and I hate to complain, but as much as a 'concentration in Space stuffs' is great for EVE Online (a spaceship oriented game) I was one of the (I suppose few?) players who were really excited for the WIS stuff. I figured when the game was refocused on the FIS content that the WIS content would still be slow trickle.

I see that this Inferno release is expanding on the CAC and possibly vanity store. I'm wondering if the WIS content is still being developed as I was very interested in:

- The booster/drug trade in bars/social rooms.
- Social minigames for when I don't have it in me to grind another Caldari mission or am waiting for a fleet to be organized through my corp/alliance.
- Space barbie.

I know while I may have been excited for these features, and may have been one of the few, was anyone else looking forward to this? And if a Dev is watching, is any of this still on the table? Does that table have a person around it by chance?


There is a dev blog coming tomorrow that touches on the future of avatar based gameplay, and we would appreciate a re-post of your questions tomorrow in that thread Blink



Cant wait... Big smile
And really hoping for good news for WiS. Bear


Cant wait for good news. Blink
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3135 - 2012-02-22 20:59:36 UTC
If they do go further with station interaction and any kind of interaction with other players (like RPG games do) why would they develop Dust? Not to mention server and client resources usage ... Its better to be off.

Far as I can see, this community prefer PVP not PVE, so .... - what to develop further - classic western fights in station bar? Not that it wouldnt be nice, but it's more developer requirement and higher cost and more important (like in any game): more bugs !

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3136 - 2012-02-22 22:28:55 UTC
Razin wrote:
Dev Blog: The Future of Avatar Based Gameplay by CCP t0rfifrans

"Well now, we retreat to our cave and continue coding, crafting and designing. You’ll read more about the project in a future issue of EON, and we’ll be sure to keep you posted as the project progresses. There’s a lot of engineering and game design issues that need to be resolved. We have our work cut out for us. But hey, this is what we love doing! "



Don't do that to people that cant wait to read anything about WiS.
I hoped for new good news when there 6 years old dev blog.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#3137 - 2012-02-22 22:55:16 UTC
My guess (I feel like taking chances) is that we will get vague concepts on gameplay thingies they want to figure out (80% chance), a tiny bone in the shape of assets already ingame (NEx clothes from Sisi, 60% chance) and likely a hint of some minor accomplishment like limited CQ multiplayer with a basic set of animations (=emotes) by winter 2012 (10% chance).

Chances for something I don't come to expect are:

90% for assorted fluff
50% for something neutral
<5% for something horrible
10% for something awesome

OK, it's done. Going to sleep, tomorrow will log in along the day to see how that devblog (and my guesses) went...
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3138 - 2012-02-23 00:58:14 UTC
Perhaps they've taken a 2nd look at their tongue in cheek proposal about genetically enhanced cyber mounts in gladiatorial area based combat.

At this point, I'd be willing to give it a chance. Smile

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Taiwanistan
#3139 - 2012-02-23 01:58:17 UTC
what dev blog? the Inferno one? what are you guys talking about?
i would like to see the latest pitch from used car salesmen t0rfifrans and Scott Craig.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#3140 - 2012-02-23 02:05:34 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
what dev blog? the Inferno one? what are you guys talking about?
i would like to see the latest pitch from used car salesmen t0rfifrans and Scott Craig.



Craig? as in Craigs team arkansas?

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